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Stair bullnose prep issue

Hi All,


I have looked everywhere to try and get an answer on this issue and I'm hoping you can help.


I am changing from carpet to hardwood stairs. After peeling back the carpet, I saw that the stairs are made of 2x plywood and the ends of the old bullnose are notched/cut out into the stringers on the sides. In addition, my new treads will leave ~1/4" of the old stair visible underneath if I don't cut the old stair nose back to flush with the riser. If I cut the old nose back, it will leave a very unsightly gap where the old stair used to be notched into the stringer and the new tread won't cover this. I don't want to opt to artificially move the riser forward before installing the new riser (thereby avoiding having to cut the old stair nose) because it will shorten the step area of the new tread. I'd really like to avoid using a stringer veneer to cover the sides as well if I can help it. The best I've come up with is to try and horizontally cut the bottom ~.5" off the old stair thereby allowing the new nose to cover the full face of the old step but this still leaves a slight gap at the bottom of where the old stair is notched into the stringer. Will using wood filler or some other compound work for filling in a large gap where the old stairs were cut into the stringer? I'm hoping I've explained this well enough and that someone can give me some pointers. Thanks for your help!


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Jeremy,
If I'm following you correctly, it sounds like your new stair tread is slightly narrower than your old tread.
If this is the case, you can buy a couple of extra treads to cut a narrow board to glue to each tread to give you the width and coverage you need before setting the new wood in place. Put the narrow piece at the back and you should be fine.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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I did this a few years ago at our old home. The original stairs were fully carpeted except where the tread ends were exposed on one side. These treads had bull nose let into the ends and they over hung the side of the stairway where the balusters were. Anyway, after removing the carpeting and pad, I discovered the treads that were fully covered weren't oak like the exposed ones were and the exposed ones weren't stained where the carpet covering was. I completely removed the treads that weren't oak and replaced them with new oak treads from either HD or Lowes (can''t recall which). The new treads had to be ripped to the proper width and crosscut to fit. IIRC, the new treads were 4 ft. long and several inches wider than what was originally fitted. The landings of the original work were plywood with a built up bullnose. I removed it and made new landings from red oak fitted to one of the store bought treads which gave me a matching bull nose. I left the original pine risers in place and "veneered" them with some 1/4" red oak plywood. Everything was then sanded, stained, and varnished to match the original finish on the rest of the stairway I also replaced the original wrought iron railing and balusters with red oak pieces. Here's a picture of the finished project.

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Trying to follow your description--are you laying the new treads on top of the existing treads?
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Yes. If I'm facing the stair the left and right side is cut into the stringers. The new tread will lay on top of the old treads but the already attached bullnose doesn't come down far enough to cover the old tread all the way.
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What are the skirt boards made of? Are they painted or stained? You can use a wood filler or epoxy to fill the notch. You can cut the plywood bullnose off flush with the skirt board.....an oscillating multi tool would be a good tool to use for this. Leaving the plywood in the notch would work if the skirt is painted.....not too good if stained. You could also make a bullnose shape plug....if you use the same type of wood and finish as the skirt board.
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Yes. If I'm facing the stair the left and right side is cut into the stringers. The new tread will lay on top of the old treads but the already attached bullnose doesn't come down far enough to cover the old tread all the way.

We are all trying to picture what you are saying and now there's another issue above. How far is not enough... 1/4" ... 1/2"

You can rout it off or saw it off, but you'll have to finish it with hand tools or a multi function tool.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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