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post #1 of 14 Old 11-22-2017, 08:21 PM Thread Starter
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Spruce?

For those of you who are skilled at identifying wood from a photo, got any help for me?

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Guess you'd be REALLY good if you could I.D. the wood from the non-photos I didn't attach...
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If that is the true color, it isn't spruce, spruce is white, like white pine. This looks to me to be quarter sawn western cedar, but the grain looks like fir.

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Looks to me like some well-aged form of fir. The grain pattern is a pretty dead ringer, and the fir ive worked with seems to get that kindve color to it over time

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Is it heavy or hard it might be Douglas Fir. If it's soft it might be western cedar.
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I agree that looks more like WRC than Spruce, although Sitka Spruce sometimes has the coloring of the billet you have. There is a Red Spruce but it is much whiter than your billet.

I have some acoustic guitar tonewood Spruce billets for comparison -

This and the piece behind it is Lutz Spruce from NW America (mostly Canada), this is a naturally occurring hybrid of Sitka and White Spruce -
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Sitka Spruce billet - this isn't mine but is some I was looking to buy. I think the coloring is more lighting than anything else.
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Looks to me like some well-aged form of fir. The grain pattern is a pretty dead ringer, and the fir ive worked with seems to get that kindve color to it over time
+1: Fir

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Spruce is too soft for many projects.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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I'm going to say, based on your comments, that this is fir. It has some heft and a knuckle tap produces a fairly bright sound I would think reveals a greater density than if it was cedar.

Somebody gave it to me and I'm always looking for wood for guitar, ukulele building, etc. If it was spruce I could make use of it more than it being fir.

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which spruce is good for tops? after building a dulcimer, I am expanding to ukelele's this winter. have been setting aside quartersawn anything when I find it. the qs cherry I used on the dulcimer had a nice tone. do guitars, being much wider, have a different need for their tops? sorry for questions Chuck....
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which spruce is good for tops? after building a dulcimer, I am expanding to ukelele's this winter. have been setting aside quartersawn anything when I find it. the qs cherry I used on the dulcimer had a nice tone. do guitars, being much wider, have a different need for their tops? sorry for questions Chuck....
Spruce in various forms is what's mainly used for guitar tops. You'll see Engelmann, Sitka, Adirondack, German, etc. along with Western Red Cedar, Redwood, and sometimes Mahogany or Koa. Some guitars use Maple for a different sound on their tops, usually a brighter sound with less bass.

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Quite alright, David. Ya done good!! I'm in my first build, a tenor ukulele. Figured maple and a redwood top. So what I know is what I've picked up from others.
To add to what you shared, grain tightness is the demand these days. Finding vertical grain wood with 24 lines per inch is a target. It's debated whether it makes that much difference. Luthiers can be as bad as theologians about minutia! ;-)
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A couple of those look a lot like sugar pine.

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are you building from a set of plans? how are you bending/curving the sides?
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