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Sourcing crown molding

I am a beginner at woodworking with a couple legitimate projects under my belt. My next project is a built-in bookcase out of mahogany veneered plywood and hardwood. I am still in the design phase and it has been going well. I've started having heartburn when it came to the crown molding. Obviously it isn't painted, so the home centers are almost out of the question. I'd prefer to not buy hardwood that isn't mahogany such as an oak and have to come up with a unique stain for it to match the rest of the mahogany, however that is a plan B. I know my home centers around dont have mahogany crown molding pre-molded. I've searched around the area for local (Phoenix) suppliers but mostly just installers.

I've started entertaining the idea of purchasing my own router bit set to make the molding. I know I can do it, however the cost of entrance is intimidating. It'd likely cost near $200 on bits to get the job done on a 4-6" molding (i'm somewhat flexible here).

Does anyone have some guidance as to how to proceed?
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You need to let us know where you live---

I buy mine from Owl Hardwood in Lombard Illinois---they are local to me--there may be a Millwork supplier in your area--here we have several
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I'm in Phoenix ( stated in first post as well). Thanks for reading
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Sounds like having to make your own is very probable. I know our local lumber mills only have yellow pine, and red or white oak in crown.

I'm thinking that a shaper would be better than a router in a table for this. IMHO it's going to put as much of a strain on your tooling as swinging some large panel bits. You haven't mentioned how many feet of this you would need though. For a small bookcase you could probably make do with the router.


Even if someone else can point you in the direction of pre-made mahogany crown I'd almost be willing to bet you could make it for the same or less price. But that's just going of the cost of the oak crown where I'm at. It's not cheap.
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Just Google mahogany crown molding. You will get plenty of hits. Order online from anywhere in the country and they will ship to you UPS.
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You can look towards stacked dado sets made to cut different styles of crown, but it will be difficult to find any kind of store with precut stock that will cater to you for matching wood species for moldings.
Look up Mathias Wandell and see his tilting router set up he made, that may give you an idea or two on going around the high cost of bits.

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The crown molding you would use in a bookcase will not be very big. A molding head cutter in a table saw should do what you want. I have used a Craftsman molding head for many years.

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I made this on a table saw, set an auxiliary fence, and run at an angle across the blade. Takes a lot of slow cuts, and leaves a rough surface to deal with.

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George, I appreciate the comment. I have a set of one inch wide table saw moldings. How wide of a crown molding would you think is appropriate? (Vertically without considering spring angle). I was toying around the 4 inch tall area and thinking the moldings were to small, but maybe I should rethink.
Shoot summ, good idea. I will definitely try that out. The picture helps a lot. Thanks
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These folks should have some mahogany crown in stock. I have bought mahogany molding from them in the past.

http://www.condonlumber.net/custommi...mouldings.html
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George, I appreciate the comment. I have a set of one inch wide table saw moldings. How wide of a crown molding would you think is appropriate? (Vertically without considering spring angle). I was toying around the 4 inch tall area and thinking the moldings were to small, but maybe I should rethink.
Shoot summ, good idea. I will definitely try that out. The picture helps a lot. Thanks
Moldings do not have to be just one piece of wood. Two or more pieces can be used to provide desired pattern or size.

I would think that 2" to 3" would be plenty on the average case.

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I am a beginner at woodworking with a couple legitimate projects under my belt. My next project is a built-in bookcase out of mahogany veneered plywood and hardwood. I am still in the design phase and it has been going well. I've started having heartburn when it came to the crown molding. Obviously it isn't painted, so the home centers are almost out of the question. I'd prefer to not buy hardwood that isn't mahogany such as an oak and have to come up with a unique stain for it to match the rest of the mahogany, however that is a plan B. I know my home centers around dont have mahogany crown molding pre-molded. I've searched around the area for local (Phoenix) suppliers but mostly just installers.

I've started entertaining the idea of purchasing my own router bit set to make the molding. I know I can do it, however the cost of entrance is intimidating. It'd likely cost near $200 on bits to get the job done on a 4-6" molding (i'm somewhat flexible here).

Does anyone have some guidance as to how to proceed?
Start calling cabinet shops near you and see who has a molder and can help you. Ask if they have a Hussey machine or something similar and if you can come by and see what crown profiles they can do with YOU supplying your own wood. If you have them use your own hardwood that you did the rest of the cabinet with - everything should match perfectly.

You will likely come out cheaper and with a better molding in the end that way. They may very well have a wide variety of profiles to choose from. (most large millwork places can likely do the same for you and may have a better selection of profiles to choose from)
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I would have to charge a 200.00 set up fee, just to get a moulder ready to run.

Just like the 250.00 single window sash, have to set up 5 machines to match just for a few parts.
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I would have to charge a 200.00 set up fee, just to get a moulder ready to run.

Just like the 250.00 single window sash, have to set up 5 machines to match just for a few parts.

It takes me less than 5 minutes to swap out some Hussey blades. Add 15 minutes or so if I need to build a special guide for a new set of blades or a 'change' to how an existing set of blades is used for the job. (change how or where the material feeds through them)

A guy could walk in and pick a crown profile from the samples and it would literally take 5 minutes to have the machine set up to do the work...

In my world it does not cost an extra 200 bucks to do that.
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A hussey isn't a 5 head weinig. Not quite bolting two knives on one head, although stock prep is quicker.
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