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post #1 of 29 Old 04-22-2010, 06:00 PM Thread Starter
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I feel like such a hack. I'm working on this framed cross for church that will have cork and fabric inside so people can hang little crosses in it. It was supposed to be an easy project, and is overdue - I keep getting funny looks from my priest!

Anyhow, I used 1"x3" oak and mitered the corners at 45 degrees. Some of the joints looked so bad I couldn't help but to go find the wood putty. I'm almost too ashamed to finish it and hang it on a wall at church.

I'm sure there are some guides out there for properly squaring up a miter saw, would someone please post a link to one?

I'll post pics of the cross soon, I just put some stain on it, and my fingers are too sticky to use the new camera.
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I feel like such a hack. I'm working on this framed cross for church that will have cork and fabric inside so people can hang little crosses in it. It was supposed to be an easy project, and is overdue - I keep getting funny looks from my priest!

Anyhow, I used 1"x3" oak and mitered the corners at 45 degrees. Some of the joints looked so bad I couldn't help but to go find the wood putty. I'm almost too ashamed to finish it and hang it on a wall at church.

I'm sure there are some guides out there for properly squaring up a miter saw, would someone please post a link to one?

I'll post pics of the cross soon, I just put some stain on it, and my fingers are too sticky to use the new camera.

I don't think God will fault you for imperfect mitre joints. You are doing His work. Be happy, and deliver it with your head held high.
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A plastic draftsman's angle and a hold down will help with the 45s.
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For real, what Just-A-Guy said. If you believe that everything you do should be as if you're doing it for God, then go back to the basics and remember whom Jesus was most impressed with. Not the "perfectionists" but those who were simplest in nature.

To whom did He say

Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, even in Israel.

He isn't looking for perfection from you, just your best effort. Give it to Him and don't worry about what others may think. Especially your priest.

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Miter saws are a heck of a lot more accurate that the old radial arm saws but unfortunately most miter saws are not that accurate either. For something like you are doing now, a shop made 45* jig would be in order and incredibly accurate. OK, so much for the future.
Back to your current dilemma. If your mitered corners are not way to much out of whack, you could get a hand saw and saw down the kerf line or make a fancy jig and go down the line with a small router bit. The sawing would make a small gap between the 2 right angle pieces. Use your table saw to make a thin slice of wood (either oak or contrasting wood) and use this slice as a filler. Chisel it flush and finish same at the other pieces. Essentially you are making a decorative plug to accent the joints.

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I'll be honest, if something doesn't meet my approval, I won't take it out of the shop. You are making this to be displayed in the church, so I would be very picky about it. That is just me though.

If you continue to have trouble with the 45 angles, have you tried just some straight pieces, you can dado them so that they fit over one another to make a cross with not 45 angles.
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Also.....

depending on the outside shape of the 'molding', you might find some really cool looking brass corner pieces to cover the whole thing.

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i check my 45 deg cuts (table saw or any saw) by making a 45 degree cut in the middle of a straight board. then place the 2 cut surfaces together, they should form a 90 degree angle. using this method will double the error of the saw, making it easier in my opinion, to get it truer.
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If you have a calibration disc its much easier you can use a machinist square against the disc to adjust the fence without making the stock cut. Blade teeth always seem to get in the way.

Your MS has a fence that's bolted down. Set the blade at -0- and lock it. Take a piece of stock and rip it on your TS to ensure the long sides are parallel. Mark one side as fence and one side as front then set that side of the stock against the MS fence.

Make a square cut then rotate for example the right side section of the stock so the front is against the fence if both meet flush the cut is good. If the cut is open against the fence the blade is pointing to the right, if the front is open then it is pointing to the left.

If pointing to the right loosen all fence bolts minus far right bolt. Mark line at base of fence on MS table and gently tap left end of fence just enough to see move then tighten left bolt and retest until square. Its opposite for a cut open at the front.
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Just remember that in the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus made a man blind for insulting his father's (Joseph's) carpentry work. So if anyone at your church looks unfavorably on your beautiful work, they may be smited!
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Just remember that in the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus made a man blind for insulting his father's (Joseph's) carpentry work. So if anyone at your church looks unfavorably on your beautiful work, they may be smited!
Really? I thought I had read all 114 of those sayings, but I sure must have missed that one. Can you tell me where to find it?
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I have the same thing going on. Making a gift for a friend and it sits uncompleted in the shop for months. I re-made those pieces at least five times. Still not good enough. Darn miters.

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I thought Jesus gave sight to the blind, not take it away from those who could see.
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I thought Jesus gave sight to the blind, not take it away from those who could see.
That would certainly be true!
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I make my cuts on the tablesaw.I run the blade up hi and use an aluminum roof angle square to set the miter at 45 degrees,always comes out real nice.itchy
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Really? I thought I had read all 114 of those sayings, but I sure must have missed that one. Can you tell me where to find it?
Start watching at 44:00. I said it was the Gospel of Thomas, but I was incorrect, it's the Infancy Gospel of Thomas.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2653729434420#
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I liked the "Board stretcher" part!

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A plastic draftsman's angle and a hold down will help with the 45s.
I find most miter saws are not that accurate.
I took a drafting 45 deg. angle ( Big One 18" ) and painted it black. I put a hose clamp on the miter lock handle so I could move it at will. My saw has a laser and I just put the 45 angle on the bed,run the saw and move it so the laser line hits just the edge of the 45 angle from one end to the other and the tighten the handle to lock it in place. I find my 45s for picture frames turn out real good. Works for me. Waldo
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Start watching at 44:00. I said it was the Gospel of Thomas, but I was incorrect, it's the Infancy Gospel of Thomas.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2653729434420#
Oh, "The Dime Store Novels". For a second I thought you might have been serious.
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I finally finished finishing that cross! Here are some pics. I used wood filler on the loose joints, and I think they cleaned up pretty well. Any woodworker who walks by it will surely notice. I also decided to enhance the corners with the Kehoe jig. I had to fill some of those, too! :D

Someday I won't be a novice.

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