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Router Lift

I have a home built router "cabinet" that works well for me, but, I have to lift the table top to raise/lower or change bits. Not a big deal, but I think I would use the router more if I had a router lift.... The past week I have been looking at home built ones and because I am all for home built (cheap), I really want to make one. I have looked at quite a few options, and like the Ibuilt one and the Shop Notes one. Of the two I am leaning towards the Shop notes because there are just a lot less parts to it and Steve Ramsey built it, if he can I can! Does anyone have any other suggestions?
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post #2 of 17 Old 07-14-2019, 12:39 AM
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This one will give you change from $5
Its been working perfectly for 2 years now.

https://www.woodworkingtalk.com/atta...1&d=1563079144
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I have two router tables with lifts.

Both lifts are the Woodpecker brand, PRL I and PRL II. The PRL I is in a top sold by Woodpecker while the II is in a top that I made.

In either case the lift is worth every penny that I paid. I highly endorse either model but I don't think that the PRL I is available anymore.

Sometimes it is better to spend the extra money rather than fight with an "almost as good".

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post #4 of 17 Old 07-14-2019, 02:21 AM
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Shop built lifts .....

One of our long lost members, Al B Thayer, came up with these plans years ago and has them for sale on Ebay. There's probably a thread on here somewhere about them:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RightSide-R...AAAOSw1XdUWb~v





Other plans are shown here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=shop...w=1920&bih=944


You might want to build the entire table and lift. There's a horizontal version in these plans:
https://toproutertables.com/47-route...you-can-build/


The horizontal version gives your workpiece additional support that a vertical lift can not accomplish. It makes certain operations much safer:
https://www.google.com/search?q=hori...w=1920&bih=944


Here's one posted here:
https://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f27/...r-table-63772/

OK, the most basic router table I've ever seen. K.i.S.S.....
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Love the last link to the KISS project, simplicity at its best.
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The Bosch 1617 EV router has a lift built into its fixed base, and if you watch CPO you can pick one up with a plunge base for $139 it is a reman but I have bought a lot of tools from CPO that are remans and they all look like new


I built this table out of ash and a chunk of left over 3/4 melamine I glued and screwed to make it 1 1/2


I used a Rockler plate, they have them predrilled to fit your router, but you will have to drill for the T handle to raise and lower it, and I would advise you to buy their template for cutting in the router plate, mine has a nice snug fit


I finished the legs with black India ink, looks pretty cool on ash


And believe it or not I even put a cover on the switch plate LOL
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That KISS project is all well and good, providing you only ever want to make one sized cut.

What happens when you want to use a 1 1/2" slotting bit/ Open all that wood up to make room. Then what if you want to use a 1/4" plunge bit?
Let the wood fall down the hole and watch it fly across the room.
You cant beat a plate with different sized inserts to make full use of a router table.
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Sunnybob is correct however if any are like me and have several routers, some of which are not in use I can see setting up one of my other, less used router in the “KISS” solution for frequently used cuts like round over or rabbits, etc. At least the router would be more likely to get used instead of just sitting under a work bench collecting dust.
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That KISS project is all well and good, providing you only ever want to make one sized cut.

What happens when you want to use a 1 1/2" slotting bit/ Open all that wood up to make room. Then what if you want to use a 1/4" plunge bit?
Let the wood fall down the hole and watch it fly across the room.
You cant beat a plate with different sized inserts to make full use of a router table.
The KISS idea is so simple you can make a second or a third for the size bits you need to use, is it the "ULTIMATE" router table, no, everybody is still working on that.
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I would need a warehouse to hold all the router tables in if I had to make one for every bit I use.
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Over dramatization.

I think a single KISS setup could cover a large enough number of frequently used bits of similar size to make this solution quite useful.
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More K.I.S.S.......

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Over dramatization.

I think a single KISS setup could cover a large enough number of frequently used bits of similar size to make this solution quite useful.

With a single setup for horizontal routing and mortising, you could make replaceable/changeable inserts for the bits, a zero clearance kinda thing. Then, when you change bits, change the insert..... SIMPLE, kinda.....


Horizontal router setups are really best for raising panels, since the panels are laying flat on the table, NOT held vertically against a narrow fence. For edge profiles, a vertical router setup is best since the workpiece or panel is laying flat on the table where gravity works you. No one single machine or setup will do it all.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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Over the years I have had the opportunity to attend auction sales of woodworking shops that have gone out of business often because the owner is now deceased, many of these shops have dedicate stations set up to produce one specific item. Routers and radial arm saws are often used in these situations as both can be acquired used for a reasonable price. Wondering around I can't help thinking how interesting it would have been to meet and talk to the guy that set these things up.
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Better check -- a router lift is not going to help you if your routers doesn't allow for above table bit changes.

There are bent angle collect wrenches that can make it work but if your router requires two wrenches, you'll need one capable of above table access. The only one I know of for sure is Triton.
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Most router lifts use inserts .......

The larger hole in the lift plates allow for inserts with different center diameters to suit large and small diameter bits. Any router lift I've seen has this feature which allows to change the bits above the table by removing the insert and using 2 bent wrenches or a locking spindle and one wrench.

Shop built lifts with a single size hole and the base attached to a plywood table from below will present a bit changing issue unless the router can be easily removed. Some plywood tables are hinged to allow for this and work fine. You wouldn't want to unscrew the router base from the table or spin the router motor out each time, but it would work, just more difficult. This is the biggest issue with shop built tables or lifts ..... making removable inserts.
The AEG, Milwaukee and Triton routers have their own above the table height adjustment:



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Use a router plate in your homemade table and you have inserts, have multiple routers on identical plates so you can just swap the router and the plate, lots of options, it all depends on what you are doing and how it fits into your workflow.

I once had a bunch of identical 1/4" Black & Decker routers that I picked up at garage sales for about $10.00 each, just swapped the motors out of a base mounted on a plate in a table, quicker than changing bits.

I have come to realize there is no ultimate router table, just one that works for what you are doing.

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That reminds me of a guy here .....

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I once had a bunch of identical 1/4" Black & Decker routers that I picked up at garage sales for about $10.00 each, just swapped the motors out of a base mounted on a plate in a table, quicker than changing bits.

Some guy here bought a bunch of table saws and bolted them together so he wouldn't have to change blades......
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