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post #1 of 16 Old 03-15-2018, 01:25 PM Thread Starter
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Round Table Mistake NEED HELP

Hey group,

I have a problem where I messed up a calculation and now have to fix my error. I am creating a 54” round table (first one like this) where the outside is a 3” ring with a designed inlay. I created the octagon and cut the circles with my router and a circle cutting jig. However, I used dowels to join the miter joints to add additional support. Just so happens that one of the two dowels for each joint ended up being centered in the outside circle cut. The outside diameter currently is measuring at 54 1/8” round with the dowel being a 3/8” dowel.

So what are some ideas to fix my screw up? The two off the top of my head are to route a pattern around the bottom half of the outside circle to reduce the diameter to remove evidence of the dowels. The other option would be to edge band the outside edge and just smooth the top and bottom edges enough to take the sharp edges off of the wood (not sure if I used a round over on edge banding if it would chip or not).

I don’t have a pic of the outside edge yet, but will later. Here are pics of the wood and the two samples that I am designing the table off of. The pics were just inspiration on what the customer likes and not needed to be exact. She does not want the table with the wood having the ruff grain, and the pic of the top was for the pattern.

Thanks for any help!!!
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If your 54” top winds up being only 53” it will still be preferred over an edge band.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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That is true and I can trim back about 1/4" to 3/8" to remove the mistake with the dowel. That would reduce the overall diameter to about 53 5/8" to 53 3/8". I don't know if the client would know or care about the difference that small over the entire diameter.

Thank you for the logic.
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Could you inlay a piece of wood to cover up the dowel? Use the same kind of wood and match the grain and I bet it would be hardly noticeable.

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That isn't a bad idea either. If I cut a slot all the way around the edge I could match the grain to hide the error or even contrast the grain and make it add detail to the table.

Thanks for the idea, I will think on that one.
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That isn't a bad idea either. If I cut a slot all the way around the edge I could match the grain to hide the error or even contrast the grain and make it add detail to the table.

Thanks for the idea, I will think on that one.
I would contrast it, make it look like you intended to do it...

And find someplace else on the table, or base to use the contrasting wood.
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I would contrast it, make it look like you intended to do it...

And find someplace else on the table, or base to use the contrasting wood.
Only woods Ii have enough of on hand for that right now are Walnut, Ambrosia Maple and Oak. I am not opposed to picking up something for the spline. With the finish sort of being a gray wash of sorts I am inclined to think that the walnut might actually look pretty nice but what do yall think?
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here is what my mistake looks like... the depth of the dowel from the outside edge is 5/16", so I would have to trim at least 3/8 to not see the marks from it I believe.
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How thick is the top? You might just veneer tape the edge.
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the top is 1 5/8" thick
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isn't veneer tape pretty much the same as edge banding?
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the top is 1 5/8" thick
I know you can get veneer tape up to 2" thick. That would be something you could just apply with a hot iron. It's so common to do this nobody would ever think it was done to hide a mistake.
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Here is my take, .02, whatever you want to call it.

You've invested a considerable amount of time in that table, nice work on what you have done so far. Sounds like you are doing this for a Client as well.

I would address the issue in the best possible way, this is your work, your name, your reputation. IMO slapping some veneer tape on it is easy, but honestly, is it the type of work you want your reputation to reflect? They aren't buying an IKEA table...

You have options:

Remake the edge.

Narrow the edge.

Find some way to slot the edge and inlay, might be as much, or more work than just remaking the edge.

Or find some way just to slot out the dowel areas and make a pattern inlay.


For the inlay there are a lot of options, you could use contrasting wood. You could use maple end grain, you could use a combination, really depends on the overall look you want.
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isn't veneer tape pretty much the same as edge banding?
That is exactly what it is. It comes in different widths up to 2" wide. http://band-itproducts.com/index.php...veneer-edging/
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In the case of a table I really doubt the customer will be measuring the top or noticing the difference, I would just trim it a bit smaller and carry on. Only other question is where are the other dowels located, will you be exposing another one and have to go even smaller.

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I decided to route out a groove all the way around and use it for detail. The customer came by today and loved the idea and is now having me try to match their chairs to make the table and chairs really look like they are a set.

I really appreciate everyone's input and there were a lot of ideas that I had not even thought of.

I will post pics of the finished table when I am done.

Thanks Again!
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