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Re-staining a darker color?

I stained some pine earlier today and the color was a bit too red.

Would re-staining it a darker color result in any issues, considering the first stain was only done this morning?

If it is OK, should I re-apply wood conditioner before adding the new staining?
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I stained some pine earlier today and the color was a bit too red.

Would re-staining it a darker color result in any issues, considering the first stain was only done this morning?

If it is OK, should I re-apply wood conditioner before adding the new staining?
Once you stain wood that's it, you shouldn't stain it again. What you can do is use a dye to alter the color. You can use a dark dye stain if you need the stain darker but if you are trying to subdue the red use a green dye. Just be careful with dyes. A little goes a long way and you can just keep applying dye until you get the color you want but if you get too much on it's difficult to undo it. A dye is more similar to ink so it's pretty permanent. I use this dye. To counteract red mix a green dye a little lighter than lime coolaid. I use this dye. https://ardec.ca/en/p/27/ultra-penetrating-stain

A wood conditioner is a sealer. Pine wood has soft and hard places in it and if you stain it without the conditioner the soft places will stain darker making the stain job blotchy. Therefore you use a thin sealer on it such as the wood conditioner to even up the wood so it stains more uniform. The byproduct is it makes the wood more difficult to get dark. This is a classic reason to use a dye to supplement the color.

Just keep in mind that dyes are something that is better sprayed then wiped on with a rag or brush.
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I have done that and it worked fine--with the same brand of stain. I don't think more conditioner is necessary. But, I'm really not a stain guy. I'm sure there are some caveats to this subject. But the one time I did it - on a door, it worked just fine for me.

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