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So, this thread is six years old, and the OP never wrote but one post. You don't think?..... Nah, you don't think he et one of them squares, got cancer and died on us did he?.... or DID he?<img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/images/WoodworkingTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_plain.png" border="0" alt="" title="Serious" class="inlineimg" />
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If you are that worried about cancer then I hope you drive a plug in electric car. You are much more likely to get cancer from pumping gas than working with woodworking tools.

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So, this thread is six years old, and the OP never wrote but one post. You don't think?..... Nah, you don't think he et one of them squares, got cancer and died on us did he?.... or DID he?
That or he ate some Tide Pods. You never know.
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Hello. I'm just getting into woodworking and I've run across a rather distressing thing.

Several of the products I've looked into buying, including ANY of the combination squares from a major home improvement chain and all of the planes I've looked at online, from all of the well respected names have a Prop 65 WARNING!

"This product contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer, birth defects and other reproductive harm. Wash hands after use."

I'm assuming this is about lead in the metal alloys. How big of a concern is this and is there ANY company who makes hand planes at least, without a prop 65 Warning? And please, let me know if I'm just being nutty, as I admit to being more than a bit neurotic when anything says "cause cancer", LOL.
The most dangerous thing that you can do is to be born. From that moment on you are dying. In Calif. there is probably also a warning that it causes cancer.

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Here they worry about chemicals and I saw a show last night where they expose the food we eat with radiation to sterilize it. Between the chemicals they use to control pest and that it's no wonder cancer is rampant.
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We were in California a year ago. Riding in an elevator in a hotel, there were cancer warning labels inside the elevator. It was at that point we knew we were in vewy vewy big trouble.
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The best I can tell so far with this is the bad news.. You're going to die. The good news however is it's probably not going to happen right away. There's a very real risk of death every single day you get out of bed and we could require warning labels on your ceiling to inform you of the many risks you'll face climbing out from under the covers, but you know...
I've worked with chemicals throughout my life that have killed people and I've known guys who became deathly ill being around them, but so far I've been pretty damn lucky and have remained relatively unscathed from spraying paints and coatings with some pretty gnarly stuff in them.
It's a half dozen of one and six of the other with this stuff.
Heck, just check out the gazillion warnings on food labels and most every household product and if you take them all to heart you'll stop eating, breathing, wiping your butt and sitting down longer than 15 seconds a day. Do the best you can and accept the very real risks of living because in the end something is going to kill you.
There is a very real risk of using almost any product. It's how the world operates. There are no guarantees with any of them. That horrible chemical dihydrogen monoxide kills millions of people, but you just can't live without it.
I think the key to it all is moderation.. Don't eat a plane.. Sure, you can sprinkle salt on it, but it's still not going to go down very good with a glass of wine..

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I have been saying it for years; the leading cause of death is life.
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I have been saying it for years; the leading cause of death is life.
And add to it, Get old or die.. Those are really the only available options at this time..when someone says they're not getting older stop them right there because they're obviously lying or sadly misinformed about how life works..

I figured it's time to change my signature so hold your breath. This is it.
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If I see a warning tag or label I will take note. Whether it becomes a concern or not, and what precautions I take if any, depends on the warning and how I intend to use the product. If it is something that will see frequent use, I may give things a deeper thought, look or consideration. IF it is something that will be used by a child or my grandchild (or any younger person), I will give things a much deeper thought and look and likely incorporate precautions as needed.

As a retired fire chief (inspector, instructor, investigator, emergency medical technician and the other hats I have worn), I find that warnings of all sorts to be something worthy of taking note and promoting. Perhaps it is due to the immense amount of injuries and tragic deaths I have had the experience of being involved in trying to mitigate, or the goal of striving to prevent such tragedies to those I have worked and associate with, but I try to take even the little things seriously. In my life experience, many such warnings are the result of a previously tragic situation that someone has had the good common sense to try to limit - even if solely by allowing the consumer to be at least knowledgeable of it.

Be safe - and always think.

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I was watching "Good Morning America" on Friday morning 3-30-18 when they had a report that Ca was now going to require coffee shops such as starbucks to post warning that coffee could cause cancer. This is because of a chemical that was produced from the roasting of the coffee beans. Then they mentioned that a person with MIT stated that coffee is consumed by the living and that cancer only occurs in the living. I drove a truck for a few yrs and quickly figured out that when you crossed the Ca state line that you entered a world all their own. Should we ever have a earthquake strong enough for Ca to fall off into the ocean do not fear the movie industry will recover. One reason all companies put the prop 65 label on everything is they don't save separate items out just to send to Ca its cheaper just to put the label on everything.

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The lesson is simple = Don't eat hand planes.
There are soon to be labels on all coffee products in California declaring them to be carcinogenic.

Really nice and big white label with red printing on some Australian machinery:

NOT TO BE OPERATED BY XUCKWITS.
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The comments in this thread have the widest range I have seen on Woodworking Talk. At the top end they are reasonably pertinent and intelligent.

There seems to be no limit to the bottom end.
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How true. Some quotes are wonderful. Live in OZ for some years. Their warning makes sense.

I'll invoke the April 01 clause.
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Speaking about coffee, anyone drink decaf? One of the processes they use to make it is to soak the beans in methylene chloride. Methylene chloride happens to be the key ingredient in solvent based paint and varnish remover. It's considered a carcinogenic everywhere, not just California.
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Speaking about coffee, anyone drink decaf? One of the processes they use to make it is to soak the beans in methylene chloride. Methylene chloride happens to be the key ingredient in solvent based paint and varnish remover. It's considered a carcinogenic everywhere, not just California.
I mostly only drink coffee in the winter and it's half/caf.
No caffeine headaches that way but it may explain why I feel half dead in those months ...or is it the Illinois winters??

Speaking of what's in your food. My parents have grown most all there vegetables and fruit (organically) since I was a kid ...so over 50 years.
People would comment over the years at the size of his garden and say I bet you save a lot of money.
Dad would say I don't know about that ..but I know whats in my food .
Dad will be 91 soon and mom 86 , both still live in their home.

Knot Stumped ...just confused once in a while.
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Like my doctor told me about a condition I have. Everyone has to die of something. Now doesn't sound nice but it's true. One cigarette never hurt anyone.

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