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I have a small side job for a customer, a bookcase and basically the same thing cut in half height wise that she wants to use as a 'TV stand/entertainment center'.

For a lack of better terms she wants 'side splashes' and a 'back splash' on the tops. Originally I was hoping to incorporate these into the frame or carcass, but am not sure of a solid way to join them.

At this point Im thinking a separate glued panel as an additional top (like I usually do anyway) and just glue and screw the 'splashes' on from underneath before I mount the top. I was hoping to avoid the extra work though.


Below is a picture of the top as the bookcase is now. Im basically looking for possible ideas on joining those 'splash' pieces as it sits.




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Do you have a pocket hole jig? Would that work for you?
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Thats actually not a bad idea, I hadnt thought of that probably because I dont have a jig lol. Normally I wouldnt consider something like that but since this is getting painted it could probably work.

Unfortunately I dont have the funds right now to get the only thing Id consider, a K4 or K5 kit.
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I can't tell from the picture. Can you remove the top? That would be great if you can.
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No its glued into dados on the sides.
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If you can drill the top how about dowels or biscuits?
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How tall is the 'splash' as you call it? I think I would just drill in from the top and plug them. I'd say an accent wood color if you weren't painting it.
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Drill and countersunk screws I meant. Then plugged over the screws.
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If you can drill the top how about dowels or biscuits?



Two things, first Im thinking biscuits would land about right at the joint line and was thinking is might weaken the joint. Second and more important I dont have clamps long enough to from the top of the side splash to the bottom of the case. Its 4ft tall without the splash.

Heres another picture to illustrate what I mean about the joint...



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How tall is the 'splash' as you call it? I think I would just drill in from the top and plug them. I'd say an accent wood color if you weren't painting it.


They will be between 3-4" tall and I was planning on rounding over the tops so I dont know how well that would work (or look) screwing them from the top of the splash down into the top.


Here is a picture of what Im referring to or trying to accomplish. Mine will be taller and with more curves. If anyone has better terminology for what these are called PLEASE feel free to chime in.



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If you countersink the screws and use a plug in the holes, you can sand them flush. Once painted you won't see them. It would be best to do them after you have them cut to the way you want them.
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It's a shame you didn't know ahead of time this is what she wanted. It would have been easy to screw up from underneath the top to fasten the "splash".

At this point, it appears that dowels or biscuits (and glue) are your only choice for attaching it without being seen.

I wouldn't worry about weakening the joint. Your glue is stronger than the wood and will tear out wood before the joint fails.

I think you need some pipe clamps.
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At this point Im thinking a separate glued panel as an additional top (like I usually do anyway) and just glue and screw the 'splashes' on from underneath before I mount the top. I was hoping to avoid the extra work though.
This is what I would do. Make it look good. Your worries will be over. I did just that recently on a dresser/baby changing station for my daughter.
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Yeah MT its seeming like that might be the way to go I was just hoping to avoid extra material/work. BTW what is your top in that photo made of?
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Here's the steps I took in a similar situation. My top was solid wood and removable. I made the holes oversized for cross grain expansion and contraction. Project Question-imageuploadedbywood-working-talk1422129372.600563.jpgName:  ImageUploadedByWood Working Talk1422129397.973488.jpg
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I realize you situation is different but maybe you can build an idea from this.
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Yeah MT its seeming like that might be the way to go I was just hoping to avoid extra material/work. BTW what is your top in that photo made of?
Birch hardwood for the guard and baltic birch ply for the top. I made the guard pieces 5/8 inch wide.

Edit: I just remembered I added a 3/4 inch edge band all around the top to conceal the plywood edges.
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Thanks for the ideas guys.
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