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Unhappy New machines now have surface rust

I am new to wood working so please bear with me if I ask a silly question.
I just purchased a new grizzly table saw and band saw. I had some problems and I am waiting on grizzly to send replacement parts. In the meantime the table of the table saw has developed surface rust. What is the best way to remove the rust. I have now purchase a table protectant so I will not have this problem again

In S.C. It is extremely humid, and sorry to say I sweat a lot.(that's what caused the rust). Do I need to take any additional steps to prevent rust?
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Hi and welcome to the group.

To remove surface rust you can get some wet/dry sandpaper at any auto parts store. I have 1000 grit. Staple a piece, not the whole sheet. to a piece of 2 x 4, and spray the Bandsaw table with wd-40, and sand the table till the rust is gone. Surface rust should be easy to remove. After getting all the rust off, wipe the table with denatured alchohol, and get all the oil off and a nice clean surface. Next, and this is what I use. apply a couple of good coats of Johnsons paste wax. After each coat, let dry, and buff off, then do the same with a second coat. That should be all you need to keep surface rust at bay. Works for me and I live in humid Alabama.

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where are you in S. C, I spent 4 years at the Air Base, loved Charleston, and 2 years at Shaw AFB in Sumpter.

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Hey Yank,
I'm in Orangeburg, Ira about half way between Cola. And Charleston, on
I26. My late wife was from Opelika, we used to go there often. War Eagle.
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I use steel wool and WD-40 as a lubricant. Then I use LP-2 as a protectent.

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I usually wax the machines with paste wax applying the wax with steel wool. Still it's a never ending battle with rust on cast iron tops. One thing you could do when not using the machines is spray the tops with WD-40. It will prevent the rust and is easily cleaned off when you do want to use the equipment.
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I am new to wood working so please bear with me if I ask a silly question.
I just purchased a new grizzly table saw and band saw. I had some problems and I am waiting on grizzly to send replacement parts. In the meantime the table of the table saw has developed surface rust. What is the best way to remove the rust. I have now purchase a table protectant so I will not have this problem again

In S.C. It is extremely humid, and sorry to say I sweat a lot.(that's what caused the rust). Do I need to take any additional steps to prevent rust?
lots of ways to get rust off, i don't want wax near my wood , it sand's off ???
here is what i have done for yrs now and no rust on my 6 or so beds sears store's has this product now. With these you will not have to scrub very little I wouldn't use any oil on my saw unless you get it all off. Finish's don't like oil or wax. The wd-40 may be ok but i don't use this stuff. The WD stand's for water displacement that was what it was made for? If their is some rust the rust off will get it to looking like new. and the T-9 will keep it looking that way. These product's were mfd. by boeing aircraft co. Works for me i haven't had any rust on any of my tool's i live in eastern florida 10 miles from the ocean. my 2 cents
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The only time I get a rust spot now is when I sweat or sneeze on the table and forget to wipe it off. The dehumidifier has kept my TS, BS, molder/planer and jointer clear of rust. The only time my shop gets above 50% humidity is when the unit fills and shuts down. At most maybe 3 hrs it can get up to 60-65%

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I am new to wood working so please bear with me if I ask a silly question.

I just purchased a new grizzly table saw and band saw. I had some problems and I am waiting on grizzly to send replacement parts. In the meantime the table of the table saw has developed surface rust. What is the best way to remove the rust. I have now purchase a table protectant so I will not have this problem again



In S.C. It is extremely humid, and sorry to say I sweat a lot.(that's what caused the rust). Do I need to take any additional steps to prevent rust?

While some don't want to believe it. WD 40 is very good at keeping the rust away. It's what it was made for. The expensive spray on coatings never worked for me in the sub tropics.

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WD 40 isn't good for max rust protection. It isn't even fair for the task. What works well is Boeshield T-9. Of course you can't use the Boeshield if you are using the machine. You would have to wipe it off with a solvent, dry it and apply wax or other coating that is slippery and won't create finishing problems. I use Johnson's Paste Wax, buffed well.
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I had issues with the top on my Grizzly bandsaw rusting if I touched it and didn't wipe it down immediately once I was done with it. I used Klingspor hand blocks to clean off the rust and every time I'm done using it I wipe it down with WD40 and occasionally give it a coat of paste wax. The paste wax alone doesn't seem to help much - only thing that seems to totally prevent it is to wipe it down any time I touch it.
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WD 40 isn't good for max rust protection. It isn't even fair for the task. What works well is Boeshield T-9. Of course you can't use the Boeshield if you are using the machine. You would have to wipe it off with a solvent, dry it and apply wax or other coating that is slippery and won't create finishing problems. I use Johnson's Paste Wax, buffed well.

Testing by Fine Woodworking says otherwise. In fact the products you mention didn't do as well as 40. My experience with those products was not so good here in the sub tropics. The paste wax would be my second choice but 40 is so cheap and easy to use and this is its number one and best use. Rust protection.

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To remove rust, I take an old 3M abrasive pad
and set my RO sander's pad on it. Drip a bit of solvent on it and buff it until all the rust is lifted, wiping of the "slurry" with disposable rags. I follow that with a hand buffing of renaissance wax and spray with Boeshield. When I'm diligent, at the end of the night, I just use an air hose to blow off the saw dust and give a quick spray & wipe of the T9. If I don't I'll usually get a light rust that comes off with a rag and spray of the boeshield.
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Testing by Fine Woodworking says otherwise. In fact the products you mention didn't do as well as 40. My experience with those products was not so good here in the sub tropics. The paste wax would be my second choice but 40 is so cheap and easy to use and this is its number one and best use. Rust protection.

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Al, I use the Boeshield on garden tools and it works like a champ as well as my equipment when I don't use it for months. I've tried WD40 on things in years past and it just didn't work. But who am i to say you are having issues with WD40? :)
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Al, I use the Boeshield on garden tools and it works like a champ as well as my equipment when I don't use it for months. I've tried WD40 on things in years past and it just didn't work. But who am i to say you are having issues with WD40? :)

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I found putting a layer of saw dust on the tops worked well too. I have had very poor results from the top kote and T9.

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I found putting a layer of saw dust on the tops worked well too
Can't tell if sarcasm, but leaving sawdust on my tables causes mine to rust. Sometimes even with a visible outline of where the sawdust was and wasn't.
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Can't tell if sarcasm, but leaving sawdust on my tables causes mine to rust. Sometimes even with a visible outline of where the sawdust was and wasn't.

Not thick enough then.

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Sawdust makes my tops rust especially if it came from green wood.,
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Sawdust makes my tops rust especially if it came from green wood.,

I'd use some WD40 on it then. It's the wonder drug for cast iron.

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