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post #21 of 49 Old 08-22-2019, 01:36 PM
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The customer service manager told me that the 90 day return period had passed, and that's the policy. That's the only "warranty" that Walmart provides. If it breaks on day 91, buy another. Final answer.

A long, long time ago I was a customer service rep for Kaufmann's Dept. Store in downtown Pittsburgh. Right around 1990. The Electronics Buyer was adamant: no returns on electronics after the warranty date. He reasoned that electronics manufacturing was so precise and defects so statistically improbable that any problem after 90 days was a result of customer abuse. Period.



[99.9% of the customers I handled were furniture customers, which spurred my interest in furniture making and woodworking.]
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What walmart doesn't tell you, is that there are warranties under you state law that most likely extend the time period. [...]
Thank you for sharing this helpful information. I won't be suing Walmart any time soon over this. Speaking generally, I hate what lawsuits have done to our country.
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There was a contractor near here who would make up reasons not to pay suppliers. The studs were too short, the paint blistered, all manner of excuses. Suppliers who made the mistake of giving him credit often let him off rather than filing a suit. Once heard the story of how he had a 12 thousand dollar paving job done, went over the the corner of the parking area and poured gasoline on the freshly packed asphalt. He then called the paving company and warned them , that the mix was crap the gravel in the pavement was loose and he would not pay a dime toward such shoddy work. They sent a person out to inspect the corner and of course the inspector found the problem. The company was going to write off the entire bill. One of the employees said, I will give you $500 for the contract. He brought it to me and we sued and won. The employee lived in the neighborhood and got a piece of surveillance footage from a home, and very far off in the distance, we could see the contractor pouring a red can slowly onto the pavement. The contractor eventually screwed too many folks and received a visit from some "collection agents" Suddenly the contractor needed new tires and a window on his truck and started paying his bills. He did go to jail eventually for some of his past activities.

Anyway, the fact that litigation has become too frequent, is undeniable. However, so are the people who absolutely refuse to pay a just debt until forced to.
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I have a small I guess they call them personal stereos, it is an RCA with separate speakers, the main stereo is about 18x18x24, ha cassette CD and am/fm radio in it, bought it for about $80 in 2001, and it still works. It was in the machine shop when a small tornado took the roof off, during the following month before I could get the roof on it rained 19 inches, when it took the roof off it got knocked off it's shelf and fell about 6 feet, but it still works fine, and the sound is good, and you will be able to hear it outside because it really belts out the tunes


It is now in my wood shop, the remote for theJVC I had in there crapped out so I stole it from the machine shop

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Anyway, the fact that litigation has become too frequent, is undeniable. However, so are the people who absolutely refuse to pay a just debt until forced to.
I have no issue with this. I don't want to hijack my own thread, so I will reserve additional comment.
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I use an alexia, just ask her to play tunes from the 70’s or a group... also use her to create a shopping list as I run out of items while working. And I can use her as a hands free calculator using fractions... love the little girl...
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Best shop sound ever
I took a KENWOOD deck out of a trooper of my wifes when we sold it. 1000 w amp , front / rear spkrs, 15" subs..Amd fitted into an old fosgate box...anyway i had a friend who designs power supplies for medical lab equipment make me an 83 amp power supply, wired it up to plug into my 110ac outlet, obviously converted to dc output. Put spkrs in all four corners of my wood shop, 16x 35 ft area. Pit subs under work bench on one end, also where i hid amp and installed deck under a work bench counter. This stereo can either provide music for working anywhere on my 3½ acres or rock my shop..cd/ aux/ bluetooth...what i like most is the crystal clear sound and clean, clear power at any level, nice bass low or higher volumes...just really great way to put sound in bigger area and i just cant say enough about how well this works for me. The power supply is main key..if you dont have the steady amps to push subs , you will lose quality, i have seen people stack power supplies from used pc's and thats just not the way to go for nice , clean, repeatable , ( 4 yrs now) still no issue. A little off thread i understand, just love to share this idea because for me, a rockin shop...is a happy shop!
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I've got a Google Mini linked to my spotify and a bluetooth speaker. I love it. When my hands are covered in glue, epoxy, engine grease, I can make adjustments to the music (pause, play, volume, skip) all hands free. A side benefit is I can tell it to remind me to do something, or set an alarm/timer. ooh and I almost forgot you can have it do some math for you as well.
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I bought an old boom box at a yard sale for $5 but the only thing that worked is the AM and FM radio. That is all I wanted and needed. I brought it home and put it on 650 AM which is Nashville's Grand-Ol-Opry station. I enjoy the old country and bluegrass music.

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I have a cd changer and tuner in a separate room with with the speaker wire run through the ceiling.
The cd changer stopped working quite some time ago (maybe one day I'll get it fixed) so I dug a small stereo out of the closet that my I-pod mounts on and downloaded all my cd's onto my I-pod.
I can also plug my phone into it and listen to Pandora, I heart radio. I find that I listen to these more than my cd's, unless I'm in the mood for a particular album.
I don't play it so loud that I can hear it over any of the power tools so that's not a distraction.
I think better with my music playing. It help's drown out the voices.
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Hard to beat a Sony Boombox for reliability, there was one at the last place I worked that was on from 6:00 PM to 6:00 AM five days a week at full volume, it was there when I started and still there 12 years later when I retired.
I have an ancient Panasonic hand me down I use in the shop but reception and sound doesn't compare to the Sony.
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I know a few guys who made their own stereo out of some speakers and a car stereo enclosed in an ammo can. Google "ammo can stereo." Sometimes called a Ka-Boom Box.. Very customizable and can be a fun project.

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Like Sawblade54 I use an Echo device, Alexa's smaller sibling. I connected it to the auxiliary input of an old Sansui receiver I had from high school and college days. It works good! The cheap 3 mm plug I use to run from the Echo and the receiver is a bit small so at times it can cause connection issues static. I like using the Echo to help me time mixing epoxy or other items such as creating a list of hardware or other items I may need to pick up.
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I use the free version of pandora on my phone and hook it up thru a JBL Bluetooth speaker. I choose pandora because they have theDavid Allen Coe channel. True outlaw country.

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I been meaning to take a picture of mine. I finally did. I had a brush pile waiting on the bulk pickup by the city. I went out to put some more out on the pile and I found this old vectore emergancy tv, radio (all bands including weather with auto scan feature). Plus a crank to
charge up the internal rechargeable battery plus it had a battery compartment to put some more C cell size.

I had a power supply from a laptop I dont have anymore and it was rated a .5 amp more than required and plus the jack fit it and everything works on it. Need some batteries installed for the tv and front headlamp to work without the power supply. Will get that later.
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Smartphone + Amazon Music + Ootz Angle 3 speaker

Completely wireless setup. The Ootz is Bluetooth and rechargeable, so you can put it just about anywhere. Really good sound and volume too for such a small speaker.
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"I didn't think it possible, but the people there were even more rude than the visit at my local store. "

LOL! Hilarious! It just goes to show you that Walmart can train anyone.

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In answer to the original question.

I have a ancient (30+ year old) Sony 13 inch TV. I also extended the cable out to the shop. The TV and a "Free" CD/FM Radio/ Stereo system (Came with an HD TV when HD first came out) in an enclosed box with the cable STB. The whole mish mash is in a wall mounted box with a plastic window pane front. The speakers are in their own boxes with double speaker cloth to keep the dust out.

I'll usually listen to 'Music Choice' from the cable. The TV is almost never turned on except when the cable idiots screw up things and I need to find the right channel or change option settings. The music is not really "listened to" but more of a background filler. If any machine is running, my ear muffs are in place.

The only time that I had the TV on to watch TV was when the Steelers last won the Super Bowl. When Ben was intercepted, I was screaming "NO, NO, NO" and the neighbors came running over to see if I had cut a finger off. LOL.

I only open up the box (Remove the glass) when the cable company is changed. Next Friday for the first time in 10 or so years.

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I usually use my old android tablet pc for listen to the music in my shop.. (I have to do root and change rom.)

The applications work on it..

1) TUNEIN RADIO

it is a internet radio application

You can listen to the local and global radio stations.. It is free..

You have to try...



You can download in Google play store..

2) SPOTIFY

You know this application.. You can find it in play store. If you don't want to pay for Spotify you have to download tubemate..

3) TUBEMATE

You can download videos in YouTube dailymations vimeo Facebook etc.. You can watch videos offline. You can convert your mp4 video files to mp3 voice files.. Everythings are free in Tubemate.. You will not find it in Google play store.

You can download in here
http://tubemate.net/

They are my applications for to listen to the music in my shop.

And I use a PIRANHA 2202 BT Bluetooth Headset.

Sometimes I don't want to use my internet..
I use a old fashion FM-AM radio.
It is a gift to me.. from my brother
It made in China but it works perfect.
It is like old days..

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Walmart Update:

I drove to the other Walmart as dictated by the customer service manager at my local store. I didn't think it possible, but the people there were even more rude than the visit at my local store.



The customer service person was busy cutting up boxes when I walked up to the empty customer service counter. She looked at me, and then took about two minutes to complete the box cutting job before she deigned to come over and help me. I was surprised that she didn't set the box cutting job aside to help the customer.



The customer service person could not do anything to help me, and called over the customer service manager. The customer service manager told me that the 90 day return period had passed, and that's the policy. That's the only "warranty" that Walmart provides. If it breaks on day 91, buy another. Final answer.



I escalated to the store's assistant manager, who said no, too. After some additional discussion in which I made my frustration clear about Walmart wasting my time to send me to his store, he relented and agreed to open a new box and swap the player with a new one.



I just got home, and have not tested it yet. If it fails, I doubt that Walmart will do anything more. I have pushed them as far as they will go, which is not satisfactory, but that's life.



Lessons Learned about Walmart-branded Electronics:

Based on my experiences with their Blackweb CD Player/Radio ...



* Walmart has their own "house" brands for electronics.

* The Walmart house brands do not include contact information to get help from the manufacturer or Walmart.

* Walmart house brand products have no warranty. The only "warranty" is the Walmart's 90 day return policy, nothing else. That fact is never stated anywhere on the outer packaging or the instruction sheet.

* If your Walmart-branded device fails after 90 days, you are screwed. They don't care, and there is nobody to contact. Walmart shields the manufacturer from customer contact.

* Walmart does not stand behind its own products. In fact, they go to extra trouble to abrogate any responsibility for the quality of the products they sell.



* I will never buy another electronic product from Walmart unless it is a known, national brand, supported by the manufacturer.



SUMMARY:

When I buy a hard good like Walmart's Blackweb CD player/radio, I expect it to last at least a few years. I expect that the company that owns and sells the brand would care about the customer experience. Obviously it is profitable to sell shoddy goods and then hide from the customers. That is short sighted, in my opinion. They just lost another customer for their Walmart-branded products.





Well, I have a replacement @#[email protected]!! Blackweb CD player for another few months, assuming it works when I try it out tomorrow, which is not a given. At least I have a little more time to think about the next solution.
How many years electronic devices are under the warranty?

It is just and only 90 days..

You know
You are a customer
You have your rights

I was buy a new lcd t.v for my grand mother. I was buy it a local market 5 or 6 years ago. We are very happy first day. We did open the tvs packet. We want to watch a soccer match in my new lcd TV. It doesn't work
It doesn't work and it doesn't work
I was so angry I was back local market with new lcd t.v

Salesman: yes sir.. How can I help you?
I : it doesn't work I did buy it today in here.
What's the problem? I don't know
I want to change a new lcd t.v or my money
Salesman: please sit down sir. We will help you. Our technician has to look your TV.
45 minutes later
The technician: I am sorry sir. We can not change it because this is your mistake. THIS IS USER'S MISTAKE.
I: Are you kidding me?
I am not user. I never use it. Because it doesn't work. This is not my mistake This is your mistake I know my rights I want to speak your manager. I don't want to a new lcd t.v. I want to my money NOW!!

I did speak their manager. He is very kind. I did take my money. I have never shop that local market again.

Sometimes we have to be hard. We have to show our teeths.

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