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Making outside shutters

A question for the brain trust here.

I need to replace some large, heavy working shutters.

They are 6 feet tall and a little over an inch thick.

I am good at cabinet work and making panels.

These are obviously outside in the weather.

1. What type of wood should I use (they appear to be a dense pine)

2. What type of glue

3. What joinery technique to attach rails to stiles

4. Inner panels free floating like on a kitchen cabinet or sealed and caulked?

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If it were me I would use pressure treated pine. If it's fresh from the factory you will need to stack and sticker the wood and allow it to thoroughly dry but once built should be the last time you ever have to make the shutters. As far as glue you could use any number of exterior adhesives such as Titebond III.
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How about making them out of PVC? The dark paint may be a potential problem.
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If it were me I would use pressure treated pine. If it's fresh from the factory you will need to stack and sticker the wood and allow it to thoroughly dry but once built should be the last time you ever have to make the shutters. As far as glue you could use any number of exterior adhesives such as Titebond III.
Can you paint pressure treated wood?

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Can you paint pressure treated wood?
Pressure treated wood can be painted just as easy as any wood. The mistake most folks make is to try to paint it while it's still wet. Of course any wood you couldn't paint it if it's wet so since pressure treated often comes wet you have to dry it first before building anything.
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Where do you live. You say they are "working" shutters.

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Those are some nice old shutters.
I would make the new ones out of Cypress.
Works well, takes paint well, last well in the weather.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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Where do you live. You say they are "working" shutters.

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Working means they actually close against storms.

Upstate SC.

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Those are some nice old shutters.
I would make the new ones out of Cypress.
Works well, takes paint well, last well in the weather.
Indeed, they are nice and it appears to buy replacements will be about $900 for a pair.

I'm considering taking them down, truncating the damage and rebuilding just that part.

Labor intensive but replacing 12 set will come close to $10k.

Replacement units in cedar or mahogany are remarkably costly.

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Working means they actually close against storms.

Upstate SC.
Where is South Carolina? If you are within (do not know the distance is SC) _______ miles of the coast they must meet code to provide hurricane protection. This means $$$$$$ on your insurance policies.

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Where is South Carolina? If you are within (do not know the distance is SC) _______ miles of the coast they must meet code to provide hurricane protection. This means $$$$$$ on your insurance policies.

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This house is in Spartanburg so no issues with codes.

I have a house on Seabrook Island as well.

Just did a major renovation. What a headache.

FEMA has usurped so much power that they are basically inforcing a national building code.

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I'm considering taking them down, truncating the damage and rebuilding just that part.
It appears the shutters are still in relatively good shape. They don't look warped or terribly rotted. I think I'd try to recondition/rebuild those, before making 24 new shutters.
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Indeed, they are nice and it appears to buy replacements will be about $900 for a pair.

I'm considering taking them down, truncating the damage and rebuilding just that part.

Labor intensive but replacing 12 set will come close to $10k.

Replacement units in cedar or mahogany are remarkably costly.
If the one pictured is one of the worst ones I don't see any reason they couldn't be repaired. You could take them down and use a router and cut out the rotten wood and glue a new piece of wood in there. Then the rest of it could be puttied and painted and nobody would be the wiser. It's not as good as replacing but it might buy you a few years before you really need to replace them.
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