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post #21 of 28 Old 10-18-2008, 03:32 PM
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I picked up the master system earlier this summer when Hartville tools had an awesome deal running with free shipping. It came with four of their dvd's. Cabinet making, router table, table and benches and something else. I haven't even got a chance to use it yet but am looking forward to doing some cabinets this winter and thought it would be perfect for that. I love the dvd's as well. I do much better learning how to do something when I can see it done first.

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post #22 of 28 Old 10-20-2008, 09:15 AM
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I just bought the Master kit and have been using it on a bedroom set for my daughter. I really like it. I've been filling the holes with the plugs (same kind of wood as the project) As said before, make sure the joint is aligned and clamped securely. I add some clue to the joint too.
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This is a home made pocket hole machine.
After the work piece is clamped down, I squeezed the trigger on the lever handle out in the front. That turns on the router. Then you pull up on the handle and the router cuts the pocket with a 3/8" 3 flute bit.
Then pull the drill towards you and drill the pilot hole. That rig is mounted on a drawer slide.
It took a weekend to engineer and build. I used it professionally for about 3 yrs and it still works great. I can't seem to get rid of it.
This thing is alot faster than a Kreg jig. Not that there is anything wrong with the Kreg, I use one in those cases that I need a pocket hole after assembly has started and can't get the assembly in the Castle machine.

The big difference between the two is the pilot hole. The Kreg does not drill all the way through because it splinters out when breaking through. When the pilot hole is drilled from the outside it does not blow up near as much.
Like all the other equipment in a shop, it comes down to how accurate and fast do you need to be. Hopefully this home made tool will inspire someone do take it and improve on it.
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The Kreg hole is not suppose to come through. This helps it lock the two pcs in synch with each other preventing shifting. If you drill all the way through you will have more drift than if you do not. You should only be leaving about 1/32 of meat before the center pc would break through.

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I only mentioned that because someone above said they were adjusting the jig to bore through. With a clean hole and a work piece clamped properly the pocket hole system works great. Regardless of how you get there.
I just thought some one would enjoy this alternative. It has great advantages if you are concerned about production.
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I've never used the Castle system and I hear it has the advantage of a better angle of attack and produces a hole that has a less likely chance of slipping than the Kreg hole. I have also heard the maintenance factor is much higher in the Castle. Because you are using a router and a drill and the system is more complex.

When I fist set my Kreg up I was upset at the movement in the pcs when screwed together, no matter how hard I clamped it, it would always move a little. Backing the drill off made a big difference. Still not perfect but pretty good. Worth it to keep it.

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You'll always have some slippage from time to time. All I do is take a block of wood and a hammer and tap in place then drive the rest of the screws. No biggy
As far as the angle of attack, not too sure about that. For me it's all about time. The castle machine is just way too fast to even compare the hand held drill and the portable kreg jig together on that aspect alone.
Both will get you where you want to go with favorable results. You just have to answer for yourself, how long to you want to spend getting there?
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That is why I have the Kreg Forman, 1-2 seconds per hole.

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