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Installing Shelving boards with brackets

Hello, I was wondering if there is a detailed tutorial for installing painted shelving boards. I have to cut for corners, and join ends, because the boards are only 6 ft long, but the shelves need to be longer (up to 10 ft.), requiring more than one board per shelf. Where do I cut, and is there some type of hardware I need to connect the ends, or just leave them floating? I appreciate the help.

Also, do I need to leave overhang in between brackets or try to join the two boards at a joint where the bracket is?
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You could put the brackets at the joint and make the joint with a 45 miter, with the bracket screws holding the miter and supporting the shelf. Or you could put an apron board under the front of the whole shelf maybe 2 to 3 inches wide and just butt the shelves together, the apron would look nice and keep the joints flush.

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Pictures would be good but just out the gate here - you will have trouble my friend. 10ft is a long stretch for wood shelving, especially if it's a bookshelf (my assumption). In that case, I would use at least 3/4 ply with the brackets in the center and a skirt along the front.

Exactly what are you trying to make? If it's a wall unit, you might consider sections. I'm making a lot of assumptions here so pictures would be great.

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Thanks for the replies and here are pics per request (I was going to upload them anyway).

The first is the brackets on the wall. They are not really that far apart. I will be placing brackets in between them as well. This is an unfinished project.

The second is of the actual shelving I'm using.

The third is a side view of the bracket with a holder for a rod.

The fourth is a top down view of the bracket with 3 screw holes.

I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get the most support without having the joints coming together unevenly. I'm making shelves for a boutique for my friend. She will have shoes on top of the shelves and clothes hangers with children's clothes on them hanging from the rods. The 45 degree miter cut sounds good. I should've thought of that sooner! Thank you both for the replies jlperrigan and Berniel.
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I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get the most support without having the joints coming together unevenly.
If you have a biscuit joiner it will take you 1 minute to make the joint.

You didn't mention what kind of fasteners you are going to use to secure the shelf to the brackets. Because you posted that picture, I figured you might be looking for input on that.

I would either sink bolts into the top of the shelf (optionally fill with a piece of dowel rod for looks) or drive t-nuts into the bottom. Depending on the thickness of the shelves you have to work with, you can get low-profile bolt heads if you must. Home Depot and friends might not carry many fasteners, but you can get elevator bolts from Fastenal for a reasonable price. They are flat on top.

Also if you are planning for the shelf to go all the way to the wall, keep in mind that customers of the shop will be handling the items on the shelf all day. It will have some forces applied to it! Not only will this pull on the hangars, but if the shelf goes all the way to the left wall, it will bounce against it and eventually damage the wall. Think about leaving a small gap there, or putting some cushion on the end of the shelf, so it won't mar the wall.

Lastly, I'd make sure those brackets are secured to the frame of that wall. If not, you will eventually have to make repairs, as children do things children do when they are in public. I'm sure we all climbed on something our parents told us not to.
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The shop owner supplied the screws that I am securing the brackets to the wall with and they also come with screws to secure (from the bottom) the brackets to the shelves with. They come with covers to hide the metal screws. So the hardware is supplied. I have a pretty good idea of what I need to do with this, but input is always welcome. I do not have a biscuit joiner btw.

She's on a budget and I'm kind of doing this as a favor. She just wants something presentable, not too fancy. Just some shelves that are white and hung with precision that will support the desired weight.

Also, I showed the top of the brackets to illustrate how many fasteners I would need to secure the shelves to the brackets (since I was inquiring about whether I would overhang the shelves or put the two joints directly on top of the bracket). This has all been very helpful. My father was a master carpenter and contractor, but he died less than a year ago and I do not have him here to ask for advice about the subject.

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Biscuit joints is a good idea

Join on the brackets is a good idea

I would just use a butt joint and employ the above.

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Butt joint used. It's coming along quite nicely. A couple more days and I'll have all her shelves installed!
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Sounds good, don't forget - more pics when all is done.

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You bet. Will post some tomorrow (Friday).
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Sorry for the delay, but here is the finished product.

First pic: Two 10-footers

Second pic: Two 8-footers

Third pic: Two 5-footers

Fourth pic: Two small 2 foot bookshelves.
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Sorry about that. Here they are.
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Two more pics of a 5 ft. slap board I had to cut in half and stack on top of each other in the corner; and the second is of some slide racks I installed in her side room. I put a couple more racks up behind the register and installed her sign outside, but didn't get any pics of those. I appreciate all the help from my woodworking brothers. I feel the love! lol (mission completed)
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Looks great, have not seem that style of rail bracket before, good idea.

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