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I need a softer couch seat

I just finished making an outdoor couch from cedar. My wife swears that it's comfortable enough for her, but I think she's just being nice. We have 5" thick cushions (in the upper-left of the photo), but it is still VERY firm. I'd like to have some alternative. Most professional outdoor couches that I see have some sort of mesh webbing that the cushions sit on, but I'm not really sure what it's called or where to purchase it. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd be much appreciative.
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Couch Cushions

go to your local upholstery shop and have cushions custom made
to fit the couch . . . . they will use exterior grade materials and thread.
buying some mis-hap products from Amazon or Etsy - no telling what you will get.
in my very personal comfort zone, those cushions are way, way, way too big.
I would go with a 1.5" thick with the firmness that suits all.
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Several things determine "comfort" ....

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I just finished making an outdoor couch from cedar. My wife swears that it's comfortable enough for her, but I think she's just being nice. We have 5" thick cushions (in the upper-left of the photo), but it is still VERY firm. I'd like to have some alternative. Most professional outdoor couches that I see have some sort of mesh webbing that the cushions sit on, but I'm not really sure what it's called or where to purchase it. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd be much appreciative.

Besides cushion thickness and structure, there's the back angle, the seat angle, the seat height off the floor, armrests etc. All these combine to make a comfortable seat, in addition people have different upper leg and lower leg lengths. Also percentage of muscle mass or body fat comes into play. I used to work in the auto industry where seat comfort was a high priority, but difficult to make one size seat that fit everyone.

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!. Memory foam cushions.


2. Remove slats and put in webbing.


Couch definition -
a long upholstered piece of furniture for several people to sit on.
synonyms:settee, sofa, divan, chaise longue, chesterfield, love seat, settle, ottoman; More

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go to your local upholstery shop and have cushions custom made
to fit the couch

WAY too expensive. We checked a local upholstery shop and the cushions would cost nearly $1,000.
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2. Remove slats and put in webbing.

That's kinda what I want to do, but I don't know what the webbing is called, or where to buy it.
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I don't know what the webbing is called, or where to buy it.
it is called "Chair Webbing" - - - google it, you will find several places that sell it
like Rocklers, etc.
videos on YouTube on how to install it.

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There are 2 theories .....

One theory is that more firm is more comfortable.
The other is that softer is better.
The easiest to try is memory foam.
There are woven seat cushions that are about 1" thick and breathe allowing a cooling effect.
https://www.google.com/search?client...+seat+cushions


https://www.amazon.com/MadeMore-Cush...a-822156019197

Webbing means tearing off the slats and a whole lot of work to install the webbing. I'm not sure the webbing will have the give needed to maker an appreciable difference towards "softer".
There are plenty of Adirondack chairs with no cushions, just wood slats that are plenty comfortable.

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Well, my wife keeps insisting that she's fine with the slats, so that looks like I'll be sticking with the slats.


I discovered what that webbing is called - "caning".


Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions.
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webbibf is not caning .....

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Well, my wife keeps insisting that she's fine with the slats, so that looks like I'll be sticking with the slats.


I discovered what that webbing is called - "caning".


Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions.

Webbing is either canvas or plastic strapping about 1 1/2" wide or so and woven on a loose grid.





Caning is bamboo about 1/4" wide and woven on a tight grid.


https://www.google.com/search?q=wove...rHVkXTSojE0wM:


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Webbing is either canvas or plastic strapping about 1 1/2" wide or so and woven on a loose grid.

Thanks, woodnthings. Caning is definitely what I was originally thinking of, but that webbing in your photo is probably a LOT cheaper, easier to come by and easier to install. Now if I can just convince my wife that she isn't really comfortable...

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Thanks, webbibf. Caning is definitely what I was originally thinking of, but that webbing in your photo is probably a LOT cheaper, easier to come by and easier to install. Now if I can just convince my wife that she isn't really comfortable...

Why do you have to convince your wife that SHE is not comfortable? Putting in the webbing with cushions will make you more comfortable and should not make her less comfortable. Of course you can leave 1/2 the way it is and make the other 1/2 with the web bottom.


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Thanks, webbibf. Caning is definitely what I was originally thinking of, but that webbing in your photo is probably a LOT cheaper, easier to come by and easier to install. Now if I can just convince my wife that she isn't really comfortable...

Why do you have to convince your wife that SHE is not comfortable? Putting in the webbing with cushions will make you more comfortable and should not make her less comfortable. Of course you can leave 1/2 the way it is and make the other 1/2 with the web bottom.


Custom cushions should not cost $1,000. I had 4 cushions, bottom and back, made for a total cost of around $800. Used the best Sunbrella material.


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Why do you have to convince your wife that SHE is not comfortable?

I was making a joke.


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Custom cushions should not cost $1,000. I had 4 cushions, bottom and back, made for a total cost of around $800. Used the best Sunbrella material.


$800 is still WAY too high for my budget. The entire couch, with the cushions, cost me $300. I don't care if you give me the finest cushions available anywhere on the planet. If you put them on a hard wooden surface, they're going to be ultra-firm. At least for now, I'll live with that.
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To be honest, it's not all that hard to make your own cushions. Get some foam blocks and sew them into a slip cover. I made fairly decent sofa pillows and I've got essentially no sewing experience.
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Actually, we were very close to making our own. We were pricing fabric and foam at a local fabric chain store. We ultimately decided to buy finished cushions at Lowes because we were able to get matching seat and back cushions for $60 ea that seemed as comfortable as the foam we tested at the fabric store. That, plus it's been a really hot summer and we only have air conditioning in the bedroom, and we just weren't up for working in this heat and humidity. Maybe next time.
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