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I need help with my top again

Hi, I want to install the hardwood band around my torsion grid top. I don't want to use nails and fill the holes. I don't have enough clamps and I really don't want to buy anymore. Is there any other way you can suggest? I will be gone for a few days, so don't think I'm ignoring you if you need more information. I have pictures of the grid posted on "torsion grid top"
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use glue with biscuits held using clamps until the glue sets.
you could even pre-finish the hardwood using thus method.
measure twice, cut once.
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post #3 of 13 Old 02-24-2010, 09:25 AM
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Lacking clamps, do you have a tie down straps, ratchet straps, whatever you'd like to call them?

Um, build a slightly larger frame and use shims/wedges?

That's all I can come up with.

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Rachet straps & bungee cords can work in a pinch!
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There is a way to use finish nails that don't show from the outside, or that need filling. You could do "blind nails". That procedure is where you use a sharp knife and lift up some grain, hammer in and set the nail, and then glue down the lifted wood in place. Nothing shows.

Or, you could drive finish nails into the edge of the box, and leave them sticking out about 1/2" to 5/8", and snip off the heads on an angle. Then, just hammer on the edging to them.

Or, you could just glue on the edging with contact cement if you have a close flat fit.






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Is the hardwood edging thick enough to use biscuits?
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Hi everyone, jlhaslip, Let me make sure I understand how biscuits work. When you put them in the slot, they swell up and then I can keep rotating the clamps as I go from one end of my top to other. Do the festool dominoes work the same way? Wletson and mdlbldmatt135, I don't have any ratchet straps but I will get some. Maybe between the straps, clamps and biscuits I can make this work. Wletson, I also like your idea of a bigger frame and shims. Cabinetman, I like your Ideas and I'm going to try them on some scrap wood. Johnk007, My hard wood is 1/2" thick. Thank you all so very much for your help and I'm so excited to get out in the shop and get this done. Like they say in my business. "Watch out when Kathy gets excited"
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Kathy,

The Dominos will work pretty much the same as a plate joiner in this instance. The dominos are made to expand with the moisture in the glue, just like biscuits.
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If the hardwood is only 1/2" thick, you will need to use a smaller biscuit.
They come in 3 standard sizes. #20 are the large ones, #0 are the smallest, with #10 being a medium size.
Be sure to check the setting for the cutter to match your biscuit size.
I would use #0 for your application with regular white (or yellow) glue.
The biscuits allow for some working open time on the glue, so no panic, but do a dry fit before gluing anything.
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I noticed no one suggested Kreg Screwing...but ,I have not seen the top! Rick

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Thank you so much Mwhafner and Jlhaslip for your help. I have been practicing with both tools and I found with the domino I can change the depth on each piece to compensate for the wood thickness. I will post some pictures when I am finished. Pianoman, I have pictures posted under "torsion grid top"
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Thank you all very much for your help. Here are a few pictures.
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Wow, now that's how a miter joint should look. Nice work.
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