I need ALL of your help! - Page 2 - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #21 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 01:10 AM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 13
View TimRoark's Photo Album My Photos
Well, while I appreciate those of you that have been genuinely helpful and welcoming, I can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth and a lack of a desire to return to the forum.
I understand and appreciate much of the opinions and concerns stated, but others were without merit and reason, many presumptuous and condescending, and some downright rude.
I wasn't trying to pull anything over on anyone or steal information. I wasn't trying to get anyone to write me a book, or write volumes for me. I didn't have any secret ulterior motive. I wasn't trying to say the idea of compiling a how to book on carpentry was an original one, I think we can all agree that would be preposterous. It is worth saying, though, that there already being books on a subject hasn't stopped the last 1000 authors from writing books on a subject, and it shouldn't. My only intention was as I stated from the beginning, and as I've clarified in my responses. While of course the ideas were not completely developed (as the development of the ideas were the reason behind the thread) I have been somewhat thorough in explaining some of my ideas and the direction I was trying to go. Clearly something about my approach, and my lack of a crystal clear goal rubbed some people the wrong way, for that I am sorry. I am not sorry, however, for my endeavor, or for coming to a public woodworking forum and asking for some fellow woodworkers to share some of their tips and knowledge. Again, thank those of you that were welcoming and helpful, even those of you that disagreed, but had something constructive to offer, but to the others, you have successfully turned me away from your forum, and truthfully offended me personally. I respectively will cease any further posts. Thank you.
TimRoark is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 01:17 PM
Senior Member
 
mackem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: U.K.
Posts: 445
View mackem's Photo Album My Photos
Talking

"Move along folks, nothing more to see here".

Kevin.

“There are no secrets in woodworking, and everything should be shared.” Sam Maloof
mackem is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mackem For This Useful Post:
mdntrdr (01-23-2012), thegrgyle (01-23-2012)
post #23 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 01:30 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Saint Charles, Illinois (West Burbs of Chicago)
Posts: 1,312
View Tom5151's Photo Album My Photos
...appears perhaps to be just a wee bit thinned skinned
Tom5151 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #24 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 01:48 PM
In History is the Future
 
firemedic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Louisiana - Gonzales
Posts: 6,423
View firemedic's Photo Album My Photos
Don't prod the carcass, lol... Let it die and rest in peace.

--------------------------------------------- one day I'll be so good that I won't need this forum any longer... then I'll know I have full onset Dementia! ~tom
firemedic is offline  
post #25 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 01:55 PM
Senior Member
 
mackem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: U.K.
Posts: 445
View mackem's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by firemedic View Post
Don't prod the carcass, lol... Let it die and rest in peace.

--------------------------------------------- one day I'll be so good that I won't need this forum any longer... then I'll know I have full onset Dementia! ~tom

Spoilsport.

Kevin.

“There are no secrets in woodworking, and everything should be shared.” Sam Maloof
mackem is offline  
post #26 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 02:53 PM
I hate tools
 
cocheseuga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 578
View cocheseuga's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom5151 View Post
...appears perhaps to be just a wee bit thinned skinned
That appears very generous at this point.

Dude doesn't know what he's asking, or how to ask it, then doesn't want to read what about four million people did who were also in this situation.
cocheseuga is offline  
post #27 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 03:13 PM
In History is the Future
 
firemedic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Louisiana - Gonzales
Posts: 6,423
View firemedic's Photo Album My Photos
... I guess I just have a knack for pulling it out of people...???

Add one more to the johnray list...

--------------------------------------------- one day I'll be so good that I won't need this forum any longer... then I'll know I have full onset Dementia! ~tom
firemedic is offline  
post #28 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 03:18 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Saint Charles, Illinois (West Burbs of Chicago)
Posts: 1,312
View Tom5151's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by mackem View Post
"Move along folks, nothing more to see here".
I think this was probably very good advice.....i should have paid attention to it....my bad.....
Tom5151 is offline  
post #29 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 03:47 PM
Hobbyist wood-butcher
 
thegrgyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Saint Charles, IL
Posts: 1,578
View thegrgyle's Photo Album My Photos
I, too was put off by the OP's vague questions, and thought he was just an author trying to get all the free advise he could consolidated in one spot. I was getting ready to "spout" off when I saw the others respond.

I wholeheartedly agree with what C-man, Kenbo, and Firemedic had to say with all of this. I thought tom's idea of the the outline and then going and asking for specifics was a great idea, though it had nothing to do with woodworking..... just basic writing!

anyway, if the OP is still around, I will throw in that I really wish that I would have really concentrated on DUST COLLECTION more, at the early stages, especially, so that I could try to help prevent any future problems with my health. Setting up a DC system could help a woodworker learn some basic joinery techniques, while not wasting them on more permanent pieces of woodwork like furniture and what not.

Fabian

Fabian

I used to be fairly indecisive, but now....... I'm not so sure.
thegrgyle is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to thegrgyle For This Useful Post:
bigcouger (01-23-2012)
post #30 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 03:57 PM
Trytore Member
 
Shop Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 2,764
View Shop Dad's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by firemedic View Post
...Add one more to the johnray list...
Meanwhile Ted is still out there...

...lurking...

...waiting...
Shop Dad is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Shop Dad For This Useful Post:
mdntrdr (01-23-2012)
post #31 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 04:05 PM
In History is the Future
 
firemedic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Louisiana - Gonzales
Posts: 6,423
View firemedic's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shop Dad

Meanwhile Ted is still out there...

...lurking...

...waiting...
Hahaha... What do you want me to do? Track his IP to Malaysia and spike his monkey meat with rat poison?

--------------------------------------------- one day I'll be so good that I won't need this forum any longer... then I'll know I have full onset Dementia! ~tom
firemedic is offline  
post #32 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 04:12 PM
Trytore Member
 
Shop Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 2,764
View Shop Dad's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by firemedic View Post
Hahaha... What do you want me to do? Track his IP to Malaysia and spike his monkey meat with rat poison?
Keep your harpoon sharp. He's got to come up for air eventually!
Shop Dad is offline  
post #33 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 04:27 PM
The woodwrongs shoppe
 
lawrence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: chadbourn NC
Posts: 665
View lawrence's Photo Album My Photos
this is one of those treads that would make a good comedy routine.........now theres an idea Tim...write a book on that

lawrence

__________________________________________________ _____________
lawrence is offline  
post #34 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 06:07 PM
Old School
 
cabinetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: So. Florida
Posts: 24,027
View cabinetman's Photo Album My Photos
cabinetman is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to cabinetman For This Useful Post:
bigcouger (01-23-2012), mackem (01-23-2012)
post #35 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 06:10 PM
HALL OF FAMER
 
Kenbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 8,347
View Kenbo's Photo Album My Photos
Although I hold no ill feelings towards the OP, I find it odd that once he realized that he wasn't going to get the information that he had requested, he packed up and left. This kind of confirms my original thought that he wasn't that interested in being a contributing member here, but more interested in grabbing information and running with it. With that being said, there's something else that bothered me about one of his responses to me. Apparently, I am a "self proclaimed woodworker". Does anyone here think that I am anything other than a woodworker? If you doubt what I am, please speak up now and I will stop proclaiming what I am. Self proclaimed!! Really?

There is a very fine line between a "hobby" and a "mental illness"
Kenbo is online now  
post #36 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 06:40 PM
The woodwrongs shoppe
 
lawrence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: chadbourn NC
Posts: 665
View lawrence's Photo Album My Photos


that pic makes it very hard to picture you angry....lol
and you are definitively a woodworker

lawrence

__________________________________________________ _____________
lawrence is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to lawrence For This Useful Post:
Kenbo (01-23-2012)
post #37 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 06:40 PM
I hate tools
 
cocheseuga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 578
View cocheseuga's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenbo
Although I hold no ill feelings towards the OP, I find it odd that once he realized that he wasn't going to get the information that he had requested, he packed up and left. This kind of confirms my original thought that he wasn't that interested in being a contributing member here, but more interested in grabbing information and running with it. With that being said, there's something else that bothered me about one of his responses to me. Apparently, I am a "self proclaimed woodworker". Does anyone here think that I am anything other than a woodworker? If you doubt what I am, please speak up now and I will stop proclaiming what I am. Self proclaimed!! Really?
Your shop is too clean for you to be a 'real' woodworker.
cocheseuga is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to cocheseuga For This Useful Post:
Kenbo (01-23-2012), mackem (01-23-2012)
post #38 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 06:42 PM
Trytore Member
 
Shop Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 2,764
View Shop Dad's Photo Album My Photos
Kenbo I have to apologize. In the many times I've thanked you for all the helpful information you gave given I have never actually proclaimed your woodworkerhood. I'm sure others have at one point or another but somehow I've missed it. Consider yourself thusly proclaimed by me at least. Woodworker! ;-)
Shop Dad is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Shop Dad For This Useful Post:
Kenbo (01-23-2012)
post #39 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 06:43 PM
HALL OF FAMER
 
Kenbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 8,347
View Kenbo's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by cocheseuga View Post
Your shop is too clean for you to be a 'real' woodworker.

Is not!!!!! Why just today, I drilled a hole and didn't clean off the drill press. Yup, I'm a rebel.

There is a very fine line between a "hobby" and a "mental illness"
Kenbo is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to Kenbo For This Useful Post:
mackem (01-23-2012)
post #40 of 61 Old 01-23-2012, 06:43 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 593
View yocalif's Photo Album My Photos
I haven't been reading the new threads list much lately, instead I just quick browse one or two forums, thus I missed this thread until today. My initial impression was exactly the same as kenbo & firemechanic, and I was prepared to make a similar post but you guys effectively uncovered that this guy has an alternative motive, further his attitude sucked.

I doubt that he was going to write a guide/book, there are hundreds of them. I think he wants tip type info to add to a website, content content content is what makes websites interesting and keep people coming back. There are hundreds of general woodworking and general home/garden how to books, but not hundreds of websites, key tips can get attention when people google for answers.

I might be wrong, but I stand with the others that felt this guy would not really upfront about what he wanted and was going to do with the info.
yocalif is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to yocalif For This Useful Post:
Kenbo (01-23-2012), thegrgyle (01-24-2012)
Reply

Tags
diy, experience, resource, tip, trick

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome