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post #1 of 20 Old 05-08-2019, 09:56 PM Thread Starter
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I am confused

Some of the threads on here confuse me.... One of them, I think it’s Wofgang’s has been on and off for months,, and he seems to have ‘special’ situations that keep getting more and more complex,,,,without explaining why he has such stringent requirements........sorry if I don’t understand.

the other thing is,,, some one will come on here with a problem,,,,that perhaps the best solution is. ‘Don’t undertake that situation!” Or. Perhaps they should just scrap it and start over, however we are so proud of our ability to solve any problem,that we give him solutions he probably can’t handle.

What am I missing here? Or what am I mis-understanding,??
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post #2 of 20 Old 05-08-2019, 10:28 PM
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Yes, there seems to be a competition as to who can come up with the best solution to a problem they know nothing about and a great deal of jealousy toward those that are attempting to give an informed opinion.

Many threads are become very confusing with interruptions of "I don't see why this wouldn't work instead", when the OP and informed individuals are communicating in a productive fashion.
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What am I missing here? Or what am I mis-understanding,??


How many forum posters does it take to change a light bulb?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
53 to flame the spell checkers
41 to correct spelling/grammar flames
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another
6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct
156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
violation of their "acceptable use policy"
109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please
take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum,
and lightbulb forum about changing light bulbs be stopped
111 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this forum
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique and what brands are faulty
27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy
19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three"
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ
44 to ask what is a "FAQ"
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions
about light bulbs"
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.
1 to state that a light bulb does not emit light, it sucks d ark. After it is full, it stays dark.

Hope this helps.
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How many forum posters does it take to change a light bulb?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
53 to flame the spell checkers
41 to correct spelling/grammar flames
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another
6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct
156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
violation of their "acceptable use policy"
109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please
take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum,
and lightbulb forum about changing light bulbs be stopped
111 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this forum
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique and what brands are faulty
27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy
19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three"
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ
44 to ask what is a "FAQ"
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions
about light bulbs"
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.
1 to state that a light bulb does not emit light, it sucks d ark. After it is full, it stays dark.

Hope this helps.
You forgot the person that asks the question, gets all this advice and never comes back.
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What are the electrical requirements to get a light bulb, or lamp as the case may be, to actually work?
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You forgot the person that asks the question, gets all this advice and never comes back.
There may be a couple reasons why they didn't come back, it may be they are not interested in woodworking as a hobby and just needed advice to fix a problem that had come up, or they got tired reading through all the nonsense and moved along to somewhere else.

What bothers me more are those that come here looking for validation for something that is not feasible and then continue arguing their case despite evidence to the contrary.

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Lightbulb even more important .....

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What are the electrical requirements to get a light bulb, or lamp as the case may be, to actually work?

Which way do you turn it righty, tighty or lefty, loosey? If you go to the Home Depot light bulb section and you are not overwhelmed by all the choices, then you get a Gold Star. Menards is even worse.



My shop has 8 ft flourescent tubes with single pin ends. I whacked one into a zillion pieces a week ago and was now faced with the task of standing on a ladder with a fragile 8 ft long glass tube and trying to push one end in and hope that the spring load will hold it in place until I can get to the fixed end and insert it in the small socket ..... well it worked. I could have used another person on another ladder, so my answer is somewhere between one and two people, depending on their previous experience.


As to the OP being confused, chill out.
Even the questions are confusing, let alone the answers.
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The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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Justdrftn, and others,,,,,my point exactly,,,, Now I am even more confused. And to top it off, I can’t find the emoticons..
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Justdrftn, and others,,,,,my point exactly,,,, Now I am even more confused. And to top it off, I can’t find the emoticons..
I think the type of replies you get to this thread will tell an interesting story.
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the internet has opened a "world wide" information resource, you should expect to see the range and variety of answers that you do when a question is asked.


everyone has an opinion... that's not a bad thing. but this forum has been getting a little rough around the edges, maybe something in the moon phases?!?


I think it would be great if we could meet around a camp fire and drink a beer together... living behind a keyboard doesn't do it for me...
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I think the type of replies you get to this thread will tell an interesting story.
What do you expect, we are all suppose to be horrible people.
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I think it would be great if we could meet around a camp fire and drink a beer together... living behind a keyboard doesn't do it for me...

Sorry I couldn't make the campfire and sing Kumbaya with you but I invited Jason and Freddy Kruger to join you.

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@justdraftn wins the internet today

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Holy crap! Now I am confused to Amish.

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you are confusing everyone one now .....

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Holy crap! Now I am confused to (too?) as in also? ..... Amish.

A little editing may have helped?

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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To the OP or Original Poster or Onefreetexan,

The Internet is a wonderful source of information. This forum is a wonderful source of information. Unfortunately neither should over ride your own common sense.

I have a sign in my shop:
"This machine has no brain, you have to use your own brain."

When a question is asked the OP needs to ponder while contemplating their navel in the bathtub:
1 ~ Is what is suggested safe?
2 ~ Does the answer apply to my question?
3 ~ Is what is suggested safe?
4 ~ If I were to do this instead of that, is my problem solved? (your own solution)
5 ~ Is what is what I am thinking safe?

While the odd numbered ponderings seem redundant, look at it this way:
You entered the shop with all ten. You want to leave the shop with all ten.

While you may say that Rich is being too cautious, I once asked a question on a forum that I don't remember the URL nor do I want to. The question was:
How do you get the new EPA stains to penetrate like the stains of old?
One of the answers that I got was to use unleaded gasoline to thin the stain by 50% and then flash it off by using a candle.
My answer was that I know that I'm ugly but I'm not stupid.
I have never been back.

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A little editing may have helped?
It would appear my grammar and sense of humor are a bit lacking today.
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Sorry I couldn't make the campfire and sing Kumbaya with you but I invited Jason and Freddy Kruger to join you.
I get it! a perfect example of this thread subject, well done!
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There may be a couple reasons why they didn't come back, it may be they are not interested in woodworking as a hobby and just needed advice to fix a problem that had come up, or they got tired reading through all the nonsense and moved along to somewhere else.

What bothers me more are those that come here looking for validation for something that is not feasible and then continue arguing their case despite evidence to the contrary.
I think before they get here they probably get bad advise they are sold on or worse, read the instructions and get really confused and have trouble accepting the info they get here.
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How many forum posters does it take to change a light bulb?

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the

light bulb could have been changed differently

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs

53 to flame the spell checkers

41 to correct spelling/grammar flames

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another

6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"

15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light

bulb" is perfectly correct

156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in

violation of their "acceptable use policy"

109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please

take this discussion to a lightbulb forum

203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum,

and lightbulb forum about changing light bulbs be stopped

111 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light

bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this forum

306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where

to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for

this technique and what brands are faulty

27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs

14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the

corrected URL's

3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to

this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group

33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including

all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they

cannot handle the light bulb controversy

19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three"

4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ

44 to ask what is a "FAQ"

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions

about light bulbs"

1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and

start it all over again.

1 to state that a light bulb does not emit light, it sucks d ark. After it is full, it stays dark.



Hope this helps.
You forgot the guy who adds his two cents to this thread that has been dormant for five years. Opps!! That was me.

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