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How do you cut your tenon?

I have a router and table saw, soon twill have a dado blade. I don't yet have any hand saws or a band saw. How do you guys cut your tenon? Dado blade and sacrificial fence? Hand saws? Tenon jig?
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For a whole lot, use a tenon jig and table saw with a cross cut 80Tooth blade.

For just a couple, by hand using a 16TPI hand cross cut saw, clean up with chisel and a shoulder plane.
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cutting tenons

I always make sure all my stock is exactly the same thickness. I then use my precision miter to cut the shoulders with my combination blade. The blade has better cutting than the dado. I use some scraps to set the depth of the cut, usually about 1/64" deeper the the thickness of the tenon. Usually all the short side shoulders are 1/2" deep. Cut all long side shoulders first then raise the blade to 1/2".

Then the dado blade is installed and I use either the fence and a sacraficial or the stop on the precision miter. I keep the blade about 1/64" from the shoulder cut and takeaway the waste. I use a gauge to measure the thickness of the tenon. I have a dedicated mortising machine so if I cut a tenon 3/8" thick the mortise will be 3/8 " for a perfect fit.

I have a tenoning machine but this was so much faster.

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Depends.
Small tenons are easier (for me) with the router table.
And, really large tenons, like 2X material, I use a hand held router.
In between, I use the table saw. I prefer using a tenon jig, rather than a dado blade.

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tenon jig

If you only have a table saw then you could make a tenon jig like this: http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f27/t...odified-15905/

You normally cut the shoulder first then the tenons in the jig.

A bandsaw can be used with out a jig, just using the fence to make the cuts a precise distance from the blade. bill

Here's a search on this site: http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/searc...earchid=712893

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I mostly go the route of hand tools... saw, chisels, shoulder plane. But when making plenty on uniform stock I go with the tenon jig I built which I can't find a picture of off hand.

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I mostly go the route of hand tools... saw, chisels, shoulder plane. But when making plenty on uniform stock I go with the tenon jig I built which I can't find a picture of off hand.

~tom ...it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt...
no pic....no jig.....

just kidding....see if you can find it....somewhere.....We'd love to see it

Learning more about tools everyday
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no pic....no jig.....

just kidding....see if you can find it....somewhere.....We'd love to see it
Found it... Old post and spelled wrong:

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f27/tennon-jig-24305/

Thanks for your contribution to the tread tcleve!

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I don't have anyone way. I use all the above methods and I'll add one.

Using a guide and a rabbet plane, sometimes a shoulder plane.
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Handsaw and shoulder plane.
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I don't have anyone way. I use all the above methods and I'll add one.

Using a guide and a rabbet plane, sometimes a shoulder plane.
I like that idea! I like the twin marking gauge too!

~tom ...it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt...
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Found it... Old post and spelled wrong:

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f27/tennon-jig-24305/

Thanks for your contribution to the tread tcleve!

~tom ...it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt...
Fancy!!! I like the acrylic jig. Really looks sharp.
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I use a marking guage to lay out. Cut with a dovetail saw and fit to the mortice with my old 3/4 inch Buck Bros. Paring Chisel. It's not fancy or fast; but I have been able to get some really nice fits.
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I've been using a combination of the Woodriver tenon jig, shoulder plane and chisels to cut mine lately. I hope this Christmas will bring some Veritas saws to start hand cutting them.
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If you only have a table saw then you could make a tenon jig like this: http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f27/t...odified-15905/
Great idea! I have on old Craftsman that is going to be modified now, for sure.
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I don't have a good table saw, only a small bench top one with non standard miter slots. So my current method is simply using a stop block on my rip fence to prevent kickback, a regular combination blade, and a miter gauge and I just "nibble" away the material then fine tune with a chisel and sanding block. Not the best method but it works.

When I get a better saw, I'll invest in a good tenon jig.
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I have only made 12 mortise and tenon joints. No table saw. I made the tenons with my handheld router and coping saw, and cleaned up with the Buck Bros chisels.
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I'm in the process of finishing 6 chairs.

Rails, 8 tenons each chair x 6 = 48.

Back support slats 10 tenons each chair x 6 = 60

Back support rails 4 tenons each chair x 6 = 24

Arm rests 4 tenons each chair x 2 = 8.

Total of 140 tenons that need to fit perfectly.

With what I have a tenon jig on the table saw and my miter gauge was the fastest solution.

For the arm rests, due to contours, by hand with saw and chisel.

If I do this again, I sure could make use of a Festool Domino, even although it parts ways with traditional fixed tenon joinery.
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