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I need help deciding what kind of hinge to use for my shelf with cabinet project. I plan to make the door fully inset into the case. The sides and door thickness will probably not exceed 5/8". I was looking at H and H L hinges, but I think I would like to make the wood the main feature over the hardware. I also don't what it to be hinged like a kitchen cabinet. Anyone have any ideas or can point me in the right direction. I am not very experienced in hinges; I've used but hinges, European hinges (if that's right, the 35mm cup ones). I have not, however, done full inset hinges. Would Roto-hinges be an option? Any help is appreciated, thank you.
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Hello,

I need help deciding what kind of hinge to use for my shelf with cabinet project. I plan to make the door fully inset into the case. The sides and door thickness will probably not exceed 5/8". I was looking at H and H L hinges, but I think I would like to make the wood the main feature over the hardware. I also don't what it to be hinged like a kitchen cabinet. Anyone have any ideas or can point me in the right direction. I am not very experienced in hinges; I've used but hinges, European hinges (if that's right, the 35mm cup ones). I have not, however, done full inset hinges. Would Roto-hinges be an option? Any help is appreciated, thank you.
You could use euro hinges set up for full inset. They will provide good adjustment abilities.





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Either hinge would work but you may want to make the door at least 5/8" thick if you wish to use a european hinge. Normally the cup hole is drilled 1/2" deep and if you use a forsner bit the center tip would run the depth within 1/32" of the face. 3/4" would be a better thickness or route the cup hole with a router.
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+1 with cabinetman. This is the one.

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Ok, thanks for the replies folks. I know that these are awesome hinges, I used them in a curio cabinet I built and I love the adjustability of them. I am looking for something more classic looking or more subdued though. I'll look around some more. Thanks!
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How 'bout this. For inset doors, you don't need hinges. A cabinet will usually have either the bottom edge or the top edge that can't be seen easily. This method is very simple. The door pivots on two small pieces of hardware.

As an example, an upper cabinet in a kitchen. Drill out a hole in the top near the front approximately 1/8", and a pilot hole in the top edge of the door. Insert a screw through the top of the cabinet, then a nylon washer or steel, and into the top of the door.

The bottom of the install consists of inserting a pop rivet in the bottom edge of the door at the same plane as the screw at the top. Drill a small hole in the floor of the cabinet for the pop rivet nose to be inserted through a washer. The nail part of the pop rivet may have to get snipped a bit shorter.

To install, set the door with the pop rivet through a washer into the floor of the cabinet. Then, at the top, place a washer over the hole on the top of the door and insert screw. The screw should be snug to the cabinet, but not tight enough to impair rotation of the door. This setup for an upper cabinet is reversed to do a base cabinet, wherein the pop rivet goes into the top of the door, and the screw is at the bottom.

Why you ask? Well, you don't see the screw on the bottom of the base cabinet or on top of the upper cabinet. I've done this type of configuration many times, and the screw does not wallow out the hole...believe it or not. This works if you have access to the underside of the base cabinet and the top of the upper cabinet.

Talk about being subdued...nothing shows.





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Nice idea! You can actually buy hardware for this..but I like your method so much more....cheap and easy. And stronger than most of the expensive specialty stuff out there. Thanks! I want to try this now.
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You could try Soss invisible hinges. There is very little adjustability and they're time consuming to install, but they look and work awesome. I used them on my last build. Don't want to hijack your thread, but if you want I could give you a quick step by step on how I installed them & dialed them in. Here's a few pics


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Those do look nice too. Thank you for the pics. A lot of the hinges for me are hard to visualize if I dont see them. Those SOSS hinges are really cool.

I ordered some roto hinges. From Lee Valley. They appear to be an easy install and were cheap. ( Ordered a marking knife and a 4" grobet saw file too. shh don't tell SWMBO). I'm going to try these. I appreciate all the input. I think for as small as this cabinet is going to be the others (euro, soss) might be overkill. I'll definitely keep those options available though for the future. Especially the elegant look of the soss hinges. Thank you everyone.
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