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Hello all! I'm a bit desperate for some advice, as I'm about to pounce on a miniatures project that's out of my ordinary. I'm a dollhouse person, and I'm at present looking to turn a baby cello into a wall-hanging miniature dollhouse. My conundrum is about hinges. I would like the cello case to open like a box. The wood is pretty thin and there are two small hinge-points to work with. I'm curious what kind of hinges would work on this project, and how best to apply them with the rather fragile thickness of the wood.

Here is a small video I just shot of the thing: Baby Cello

I would appreciate any advice you experienced folks can offer. :)

Thanks!

Steph

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welcome to the forum, Steph. what part of the country are you in ?

how often will the doll house be opened and closed ?? (and by an adult or child ?)

it looks like you have a little wiggle room in the design.
if you don't mind spending a few bucks for R&D, you can get a couple of
SOSS Barrel Hinges (available from internet sources) and experiment
with them to see how you can build up glue blocks for the hinges to
open and close smoothly. that is your first hurdle. after that, then you
can concentrate on your project.

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Here's what I'd do ......

Because of the irregular shaped "lid" of the cello, mechanical hinges may not work. There may need to be some sideways give to the hinging motion and this is why I would use a leather strap. Leather or nylon webbing would still allow it to fold easily, but be flexible to give if necessary. I would put small "seating wedges" on the lid bottom to insure it gets back onto the body in the correct location and can't wiggle around.

How will this be displayed on a table or on the wall? A vertical orientation on the wall would be like a 8 story building with different levels for each "room" in the house. It would also prevent "abuse" from being moved around which most certainly will destroy the body in untrained hands. This may be blasphemy, but what if you cut the top right down the center and made two "doors" that opened on either side exposing the interior? Very interesting and cool project!


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+1 on what john recommended

of course traditional hinges will require the hinge pin (pivot point) to be past the farthest point of the lid/body, to aoid hinge bind/so that the lid can pivot freely. a good solution is a hinge that moves the door away as it opens, like the soss john suggested. as you can see, the body material is not thick enough to accept the barrel diameter. i would buy a few, experiment, then see if glue blocks will be required to hold the hinge.

traditional hinges will work tho (not invisible), but will likely also require some blocking provision for the hinge screws.
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I missed the words "wall hanging" .....

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Because of the irregular shaped "lid" of the cello, mechanical hinges may not work. There may need to be some sideways give to the hinging motion and this is why I would use a leather strap. Leather or nylon webbing would still allow it to fold easily, but be flexible to give if necessary. I would put small "seating wedges" on the lid bottom to insure it gets back onto the body in the correct location and can't wiggle around.

How will this be displayed on a table or on the wall?
A vertical orientation on the wall would be like a 8 story building with different levels for each "room" in the house. It would also prevent "abuse" from being moved around which most certainly will destroy the body in untrained hands. This may be blasphemy, but what if you cut the top right down the center and made two "doors" that opened on either side exposing the interior? Very interesting and cool project!


I see that you intend to hang it on the wall, which will make a great display and offer more protection. I still like the two door idea I proposed. It will make each door a bit lighter and more narrow so they will have less "hanging" leverage which tends to stress the hinges and their attachment points. If you have a wide door/top and put the least bit of weight or strain on it, it make break off.

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What you are suggesting is pretty well impossible without some ingenious engineering, any hinges simply attached will likely bind at the points of the case. Attaching hinges to the locations mentioned, if it will work, means the door will be swinging up which means it will not stay open unless there is a catch mechanism to hold it open.

Looking through images online there appears to be two solutions, split the face and hinge from the centre, or make the front removable.

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