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post #21 of 33 Old 12-23-2018, 09:38 AM
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Try this website or google rolling library ladders.

https://www.cshardware.com/rolling-library-ladder

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Try this website or google rolling library ladders.

https://www.cshardware.com/rolling-library-ladder
The ladders are easy to find. You can get a kit and build the ladder yourself or you can buy them already made. It's the vertical pipes I was having trouble finding however I'm no longer searching. I submitted a proposal to build the cabinet a week ago and haven't heard back from the customer. I think they will either do without the cabinet or find someone else. Somehow she got the idea that I could custom build her a cabinet cheaper than she could get a premade cabinet from a furniture store.
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Kind of odd if it was meant as a library ladder system, unless the person using it was only 4' tall

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Anyone ever see these vertical pipes in a bookcase before. I have a customer that wants it and I don't have a clue what word to search for it. Functionally about all I can see a use for it is to keep the shelves from moving forward.

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The ladders are easy to find. You can get a kit and build the ladder yourself or you can buy them already made. It's the vertical pipes I was having trouble finding however I'm no longer searching. I submitted a proposal to build the cabinet a week ago and haven't heard back from the customer. I think they will either do without the cabinet or find someone else. Somehow she got the idea that I could custom build her a cabinet cheaper than she could get a premade cabinet from a furniture store.
Ive noticed quite a few folks are under the impression a piece can be built cheaper than they can buy some thing similar. Heck I was under that impression also but Ive since found that after all the time, material and hardware are added up it just aint so. Quality hand built items arent cheap.

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I remember the rolling ladders back in the olden days. I would think you have to buy Goofy hardware at Disney World.

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I remember the rolling ladders back in the olden days. I would think you have to buy Goofy hardware at Disney World.
Could be, those vertical rods look Mickey Mouse to me.
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I just hope Donald remembers to duck if a book falls off a shelf. Geez, they get worse as the thread goes on!

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Could be, those vertical rods look Mickey Mouse to me.
I have had several occasions where the customer gives me the dimensions of what they want. I draw it out on 1/4" graph paper which usually takes less than a minute. I always do this with a carbon copy. Then I tell them what I think, usually because the proportions 'aren't the usual standard' proportions. Then they say that that is exactly what they want. Soooooooooooo, usually take 25 - 30% down. In this case I will ask for 50% down. I write that on the graph paper and this acts as their receipt. I get the original and they get the carbon.
Then when finished, My first reaction is.......this is pretty grotesque. So I deliver it and their reaction is "WOW!. This is exactly what we wanted" and they are just thrilled to death.

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Just looks like those black iron pipes from lowes to me. And they'd definitely be sturdy.
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Just looks like those black iron pipes from lowes to me. And they'd definitely be sturdy.
From what I've seen the hardware looks to be shower curtain rods. They only come in 6' lengths and the cabinet I was proposing was taller than that. The rods had a more decorative end on them than gas pipe.
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I would think shower curtain rod would be too thin/light to hold a ladder and a person on the ladder. Iron pipe would have to be cleaned as I have seen that they are oiled or greased with something before painting. Looking for the finished project.

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I agree with Steve in his Curtain Rod assumption. I wouldnt suspect that these are load bearing because other than the top shelf, the vertical rods are not going through the shelves. Most reasonably priced wheels have brakes so the pull yourself along idea would not work. The ones that dont have brakes would be dangerous. The idea is not to slide rather than use the dangerous idea of pull yourself along. Just get off the ladder and re-position it. Therefore it is there purely for aesthetic reasons. If it were me, I would also include a photo of the rod and end fittings on the receipt if you cannot get an exact match.
If thats what they want, go for it.
Also note that you cannot stack the books from end to end Enough space must be left on the shelf to squeeze the books past the rods

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I would think shower curtain rod would be too thin/light to hold a ladder and a person on the ladder. Iron pipe would have to be cleaned as I have seen that they are oiled or greased with something before painting. Looking for the finished project.
You are right but I wasn't considering using curtain rods for the ladder. That would be separate hardware all to itself. If I did the job I would buy an actual ladder hardware kit. It's just the vertical rods that had me stumped. I had never seen anything like it before.
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