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Which drill mixer would be best?

An idea someone floated by me; Im going to soon be having about 60lbs+ worth of grain and seed type food (rolled oats, rolled barley, flax seed, mullet, buckwheat and others). Once i find a container that can hold it all.. i still have to mix it all together. A drill mixer was suggested to me as doing that by hand is harder then it sounds. I do it now with 20lbs and a few added items. It gets heavy and hard to handle quick. So i expect 60+ to be much more a pain.



What kind of drill mixer would best be suited for mixing up a concoction like that? Id only be looking to evenly mix the items, not shred or break them down or anything of that sort. - I havnt worked with mixers like that before so im not sure which shape and style would be best suited.



I believe thats the link to the drill i have.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1...9205/206127587
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I would look for an inexpensive high-torque corded electric drill
and forego the battery type.
I have an old vintage WEN 1/2" VS and still mix grout,
mortar and plaster with it.

how often will you be doing this project ?
if this is going to be an ongoing project, you could remove
all the physical labor from the task and get a mixer.
(of course, get a new one) is your product going to be animal food
or protein bars for human consumption ?? or, making beer ??

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You'll need a "mixer" and a drill .....

This mixer will blend all your grains together:
https://www.harborfreight.com/long-m...dle-97357.html


You will also want a variable speed drill with a powerful motor like this:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-...ill-63114.html


I have both of these, mine are similar, not exactly the same, but I know they will work for your project.


Here's a different type, but possibly a better solution for you:
https://www.amazon.com/Handheld-6-sp...954176&sr=8-19
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I would look for an inexpensive high-torque corded electric drill
and forego the battery type.
I have an old vintage WEN 1/2" VS and still mix grout,
mortar and plaster with it.

how often will you be doing this project ?
if this is going to be an ongoing project, you could remove
all the physical labor from the task and get a mixer.
(of course, get a new one) is your product going to be animal food
or protein bars for human consumption ?? or, making beer ??

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The two drills i linked to i already have. Im not looking to get another one or a new one. Cant afford to anyway.
Im not sure how often i will be doing this. Its a big mix of food for some animals. How often will depend on how quickly they go through it. But i have to do the first batch to get a better idea of that. But i would guess once every 3~ months ish. Not something that will be constant or every day.


edit; i do have an older electric corded drill somewhere. But i dont recall its specs off hand.
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The two drills i linked to i already have. Im not looking to get another one or a new one. Cant afford to anyway.
Im not sure how often i will be doing this. Its a big mix of food for some animals. How often will depend on how quickly they go through it. But i have to do the first batch to get a better idea of that. But i would guess once every 3~ months ish. Not something that will be constant or every day.


edit; i do have an older electric corded drill somewhere. But i dont recall its specs off hand.
I think anything you use on a drill is going to have some effect on the product as far as breaking it down. The mixer John linked is a great idea, or a barrell that you can seal and roll/turn somehow.
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well the way my dad did it when I was a kid when we lived on a farm was in a 25 gallon barrel with a removable lid with a latch on it and had us kids just roll it around the barn yard for a little bit. Now I will tell you that them drill mixtures are really made for like mixing liquids like paint and such and mixing dry goods like what you are wanting to mix well it wont work especially in large batches it will bog down your drill unless you have a hole hawg set on low and if that. But I know you said you could not afford anything that cost alot but John Smith ideal might be the best bet for you especially if you are going to do it alot. You can find the drums in your area by googling drums with latches.
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out of curiosity.. those cement mixer machines.. what size would you need to fit 60~lbs worth of grain/seeds in it. I havnt received the order yet, so im not sure the volume it is.
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out of curiosity.. those cement mixer machines.. what size would you need to fit 60~lbs worth of grain/seeds in it. I havnt received the order yet, so im not sure the volume it is.
Well the mixers can handle 60 pound bags of concrete mix but that does not take up much in a portable mixer so you might be able to mix a lot. Now home depot has a 5 cubic ft mixer and that pretty large for the price compare to alot of them that only handle 3.5 cubic ft. Even at 5 cubic ft you may need to run several batches to do 60 pounds of feed.

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Those hand held things are too small to be useful for a project like yours. Depending upon the container you have then in a hoe or shovel would be far better.


Hand held mixers are designed for things like liquids or fluid solids. The type of grains you are listing are easily mixed by hand. 60# of them is not very much.


Pour them into a 20 gallon trash can and use small shovel.




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Wolf - I used my neighbor's mixer to mix concrete for a sidewalk.
they are available in 1.5 and 3.5 cubic feet size for the DIY guy.
check them out at Harbor Freight's website.
another option would be to lay out a big plastic tarp. spread the grains
out and mix with a garden rake. that would not damage the grain heads.
or - if you have a large area in your garage or carport, make a clean spot
on the floor as a mixing area.
and as stated above: get one of those big blue or white plastic drums with
the removable lid. (check craigslist). put in the ingredients and roll around
in the yard to mix.
(if you have young kids, get them involved in the mixing process).

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You might consider smaller batch sizes. Break that 60lb up into, for example, four 15lb mix batches. It's a lot of extra measuring but not too bad if you're only doing it four times a year.

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a Google search for 5 gallon bucket mixer brought up this. There are quite a few different versions available if you do this search. Attached is only one of them. It's designed for mixing small batches of concrete, mortar, etc. but should do what you want at a reasonable price.

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http://quikspray.com/quikstir-mixers...quikstir-mixer (scroll down the page)
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You might consider smaller batch sizes. Break that 60lb up into, for example, four 15lb mix batches. It's a lot of extra measuring but not too bad if you're only doing it four times a year.

Im still waiting for my order to arrive to see how it is packaged/divided. But the order is for roughly 12 different items. Each items at 5lbs. So im guessing it will be just that. 12 individual 5lb bags.


The only scale i have at the moment that is near that range is for my chinchillas. It goes up to about 999 grams (35~ ounces). It would take some work, but i might be able to divide it up into 2 batches or maybe 5 batches; depending on how much volume it takes up. - More work then id like.. but gotta do what i gotta do.
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it probably doesn't matter to the subject:

but I was just wondering if this homemade concoction is for your personal use ?
or - to repackage and resell ? (now that you mention the chinchillas).
for smaller batches, I would go strictly by weight = dividing it all up accordingly before mixing.
the volume density would certainly be different between grains.
but the weight ratio would be consistent with every batch.
(just a thought)

Edit: and it seems like you need another scale for this project.
I have this 50 Lb. Postal Scale from WalMart for about $18.00
it shows pounds, ounces, kilograms and grams.

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I have used bathroom scales to weigh luggage etc. Small electronic scales could be used. just hook into a bag.

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You might want to look at a compost barrel.
Load it up and spin.
Dump when done.
Repeat.
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but I was just wondering if this homemade concoction is for your personal use ?
or - to repackage and resell ? (now that you mention the chinchillas).
for smaller batches, I would go strictly by weight = dividing it all up accordingly before mixing.
the volume density would certainly be different between grains.
but the weight ratio would be consistent with every batch.

This mix will be used for my mice, not for resale. (Many of these items would be very bad for a chinchilla to ingest.)
I do already mix my chins pellets. And exactly as you thought, i do it by weight. Volume, even if it were accurate, would be a real pain imo. Weight is much more simple. And its not like one pellet off and everything goes to hell. Its close enough. Tho i still try to be as accurate as i can.


The scale i mentioned i have i got for weighing my chins periodically. Which is why its a smaller scale and caps at 1000 grams. Tho on the odd chance anyone is thinking about a scale for there own chin, i do recommend sticking to one that goes to one-hundredth of a gram.. but caps at 2,000 grams instead of 1,000. (Some chin can surpass 1000 grams. None of mine do atm, but they can. I do have some at the 950~ mark.)
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You might want to look at a compost barrel.
Load it up and spin.
Dump when done.
Repeat.

thats an interesting idea too. I found one at lowes for $75. Basically looks like to a plastic cement mixer (if there were such a thing.) Cheaper then the metal cement mixer at least.
Took me a little while to realize those things on its surface were just indents in the design. I thought they were holes and was trying to figure out how the heck that was supposed to work lol

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I mix dry grain and seed in batches of nearly that size. I put them in a wheelbarrow and use a shovel to turn the stuff repeatedly until it's fairly well mixed. I too, doubt the ability of most hand held drills to do the job. But good luck with it.
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I got my order today. I divided the 60lbs of items into two 30lbs batches. A single patch took nearly all of the 10gallon can i have for the food. And it was jsut at the limit of what i could mix by hand all at once. - So i was able to get it done. But i wouldnt be able to do the entire thing all at once with what i have right now.
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