Drawers - the newest bane of my existence :( - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 16 Old 06-04-2015, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Panama City, Florida
Posts: 838
View new2woodwrk's Photo Album My Photos
Drawers - the newest bane of my existence :(

Ok, I surrender :(

I made 2 boxes I want to fill with drawers.

I measured the insides, cut the drawers to the dimension which I thought I measured correctly and of course the drawers don't fit (screwed that up so had to adjust).

Ok, put the drawer on the sled and TS and trim the side - done. Off by a hair :(

I'm using old runners I took off some old drawers, 4 pieces 2 per side, 1 attaches to the bottom of the drawer the other to the side of the box - the drawer then slips into the ones on the side.



However, to get the runners the correct height and level on both sides? That's a complete mystery!!!

What's the secret?

Thanks as always in advance
new2woodwrk is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 Old 06-04-2015, 07:38 PM
EdS
Senior Member
 
EdS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 206
View EdS's Photo Album My Photos
Cut two spacer blocks the length of the drawer and exactly the width necessary to give you the proper height. Place them on the drawer support and clamp them in place. Then just put your slide on the top of the spacers, and mount slides.
EdS is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to EdS For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-04-2015)
post #3 of 16 Old 06-04-2015, 09:37 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Florida Panhandle
Posts: 11,791
View GeorgeC's Photo Album My Photos
You will be sorry if you use those cheap slides in your picture. Full depth slides should not cost over $7 to $8 when ordered online.

EdS gave good advise. He did leave out the level to get the slides level or slightly low in the back. I prefer very slightly low.

You then have to fit the drawer to the slides. I like to use 1/16 or 1/8 inch spacer under the drawer. (this assumes that I have cross member under front of each drawer, which is the design I use.) Then sit drawer level, pull out drawer and screw slide to drawer.

George
GeorgeC is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to GeorgeC For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-04-2015)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 16 Old 06-04-2015, 10:28 PM
EdS
Senior Member
 
EdS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 206
View EdS's Photo Album My Photos
GeorgeC makes a good point, if you are going to go to the effort to build a cabinet, spend a few extra bucks and get a good full extension slide. They will last much longer and will be much easier to install.
EdS is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to EdS For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-04-2015)
post #5 of 16 Old 06-04-2015, 11:03 PM
Senior Member
 
MT Stringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Channelview, Tx
Posts: 2,642
View MT Stringer's Photo Album My Photos
You Tube has videos that should explain how to install the drawer slides.

BTW, I hate those slides.
MT Stringer is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to MT Stringer For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-04-2015)
post #6 of 16 Old 06-04-2015, 11:22 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Panama City, Florida
Posts: 838
View new2woodwrk's Photo Album My Photos
I had these sliders (I have 7 pairs) in my pile of savings so I figured I could use them to practice. No?
new2woodwrk is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to new2woodwrk For This Useful Post:
MT Stringer (06-04-2015)
post #7 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 10:26 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 340
View phoenixbound's Photo Album My Photos
Practice using good full extension slides!!!
phoenixbound is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to phoenixbound For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-05-2015)
post #8 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 02:37 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 204
View Kansas Gary's Photo Album My Photos
There is nothing wrong with those slides I have a few on my shop cabinets that are going on 30 years old now................. Granted full extension slides are nice but if you don't have to spend the money then use what you have is my opinion........................
Kansas Gary is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Kansas Gary For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-05-2015)
post #9 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 03:53 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 340
View phoenixbound's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kansas Gary View Post
There is nothing wrong with those slides I have a few on my shop cabinets that are going on 30 years old now................. Granted full extension slides are nice but if you don't have to spend the money then use what you have is my opinion........................
I take it you are serious? We have one cabinet that came with those slides (IDENTICAL to what the OP pictured) and they are THE WORST frickin drawer slides that I've ever had the displeasure to own. They are barely a step up from drawers sliding on wood runners. The drawers don't pull out nearly far enough and some of them are rough and I'm not going to bother wasting my time replacing them with the same crappy slides and neither am I going to make new drawers for that cabinet in order to switch to FE slides.
phoenixbound is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to phoenixbound For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-05-2015)
post #10 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 04:02 PM
Senior Member
 
MT Stringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Channelview, Tx
Posts: 2,642
View MT Stringer's Photo Album My Photos
My thinking is simple. Life's too short to have to settle for crappy drawer slides. Buy some good ones and you will sleep better at night!

Save your money on other things to help offset the cost of the hardware.
MT Stringer is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to MT Stringer For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-05-2015)
post #11 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Panama City, Florida
Posts: 838
View new2woodwrk's Photo Album My Photos
First off as always, all the advice is greatly appreciated and always welcome.

I got the first set of drawers in the smaller cabinet today - looks like crap, but with some creative table sawing, I managed to get 2 drawers in - unfortunately, I originally made the cabinet to hold 3 drawers - oh well, I screwed up the measurements some how.

I know the sliders I have are bottom of the barrel, but it's what I have at the moment.

IMO - if I can't get the measurements correct to create the drawers properly, good sliders aren't going to help - just a waste of money.

I've got another box to work on this week - it's the larger of the 2 with larger drawers - hopefully I can get 3 drawers into that one :(

drawers are a real PITA.

I need a mentor LOL
new2woodwrk is offline  
post #12 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 04:26 PM
Senior Member
 
MT Stringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Channelview, Tx
Posts: 2,642
View MT Stringer's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by new2woodwrk View Post
First off as always, all the advice is greatly appreciated and always welcome.

I got the first set of drawers in the smaller cabinet today - looks like crap, but with some creative table sawing, I managed to get 2 drawers in - unfortunately, I originally made the cabinet to hold 3 drawers - oh well, I screwed up the measurements some how.

I know the sliders I have are bottom of the barrel, but it's what I have at the moment.

IMO - if I can't get the measurements correct to create the drawers properly, good sliders aren't going to help - just a waste of money.

I've got another box to work on this week - it's the larger of the 2 with larger drawers - hopefully I can get 3 drawers into that one :(

drawers are a real PITA.

I need a mentor LOL
Don't sweat the small stuff. There will always be a next time. And you will get better as you go.

Question...Are the drawer sides to tall to fit the openings?
Or, are the drawer boxes to wide to fit the openings?

I will help if I can.
MT Stringer is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to MT Stringer For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-05-2015)
post #13 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Panama City, Florida
Posts: 838
View new2woodwrk's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by MT Stringer View Post
Don't sweat the small stuff. There will always be a next time. And you will get better as you go.

Question...Are the drawer sides to tall to fit the openings?
Or, are the drawer boxes to wide to fit the openings?

I will help if I can.
Thanks MT...

The bottom somehow was about 1/8 too wide :( - this is where I started after I made the box.

I measured the sliders to deduct that amount from bottoms width since these sliders fit on the bottom of the drawer.

The sides, front and back seem to have been about the same amount over (too high, which is how I lost the 3rd drawer).

I deliberately made the front over sized so it would stop at the side of the box - that didn't work very well :( and ended up fitting inside the box instead.

Me and drawers are not getting along very well :(
new2woodwrk is offline  
post #14 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 07:53 PM
EdS
Senior Member
 
EdS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 206
View EdS's Photo Album My Photos
If your cabinet and drawer boxes are not square, you indeed will have problems installing slides. That said,
here is a good simple video that shows you how to install the full extension slides without measuring even once.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy72B...A5AC6134741336
EdS is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to EdS For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-05-2015)
post #15 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 08:49 PM
Senior Member
 
MT Stringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Channelview, Tx
Posts: 2,642
View MT Stringer's Photo Album My Photos
Here's how to do it. Make your spacers as needed to space the drawers.

The thing to do is make your spacer(s) tall enough for the top set of slides, then cut it down for the next drawer under it, and so on.

Also, notice that the spacer is under the straight part of the drawer slide.

Hope this helps.

Mike
Attached Images
 
MT Stringer is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to MT Stringer For This Useful Post:
new2woodwrk (06-05-2015)
post #16 of 16 Old 06-05-2015, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Panama City, Florida
Posts: 838
View new2woodwrk's Photo Album My Photos
Thanks guys - much appreciated - I'll view the vid tomorrow when I start the next set of drawers

Yah Mike, that makes sense - start at the top and cut downward - duh!
new2woodwrk is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Newest builds igster Project Showcase 11 04-05-2015 10:45 PM
My newest challenge wdkits1 General Woodworking Discussion 4 05-19-2010 10:43 PM
Newest member jakeearl New Member Introductions 2 04-28-2010 01:30 AM
Hinges are the bane of my existence! jeffreythree General Woodworking Discussion 7 04-10-2008 11:53 PM
Newest issue... dpmcreations General Woodworking Discussion 0 02-10-2008 10:29 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome