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deadherring 02-28-2016 08:31 PM

Chisels wont stay seated in handle
 
Hi,

I purchased a set of these Stanley sweetheart chisels a while back.

I'm having a problem where the chisel will not stay seated in the handle. Some stay better than the others, but most of them fall out with use or handling. The instructions the chisels came with say to rough up the handle with sandpaper and use some force on the bottom of the handle but I've tried that with no luck.

Stanley customer service is no help at all, they said I can send them back and they'll 'evaluate them to see if they are defective'.

I'm thinking about using epoxy to seal the handle to the chisel. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Nathan

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Steve Neul 02-28-2016 08:44 PM

I think I would be more inclined to use super glue than epoxy. Neither glue may hold indefinitely and epoxy is thicker making it harder to glue a second time.

woodnthings 02-28-2016 08:59 PM

before doing anything ....
 
Read this article about how to attach the handles:
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/w...rtchisels.html

John Langley 02-28-2016 11:18 PM

I used to small dab of silicone that was over year ago

Steve Neul 02-29-2016 12:54 AM

I have to say though, I have between 40 and 50 chisels and I have only had the handle come off a chisel a few times in the last 40 years. One time really shouldn't count because I hit it hard enough to split the handle. I think the only Stanley chisels I have are made with plastic handles. Even my woodcarving teacher commented the plastic handle chisels were better. What the link doesn't mention about beating up the wood handles with a hammer is nobody should use a hammer on a wood handled chisel. You use a wooden mallet with a wood handled chisel.

Looking at how the sweetheart chisels are made it's no wonder the handles come off. The handle doesn't go near far enough into the chisel.

sawdustfactory 02-29-2016 01:07 AM

Socket chisels like the Stanley's you have, Lie Nielsen and others only need several good taps on your bench to seat them. Hold by the tang and give them a sharp wrap on the bench and they should seat just fine.

Keithport 02-29-2016 12:44 PM

Hairspray on the handle is another trick for socket chisels. Lie Nielsen had a video on this awhile back. I'll see if I can find the link. I wouldn't recommend gluing on the handles if at all possible. The idea behind socket chisels is having the ability to replace or change the handles if needed.

Here's the link:

woodnthings 02-29-2016 04:31 PM

A very old method of seating the handle.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sawdustfactory (Post 1289186)
Socket chisels like the Stanley's you have, Lie Nielsen and others only need several good taps on your bench to seat them. Hold by the tang and give them a sharp wrap on the bench and they should seat just fine.

It could also be that the tip of the handle is bottoming out in the hollow cavity not allowing it to seat fully. Remove 1/8" off the tip and see if that improves the "bite". Another tip is to use resin or pine tar which is fairly sticky but can be removed if needed. V belt dressing sticks would work. Shellac came to mind when I first read the thread...

deadherring 02-29-2016 07:12 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions. It's been pretty frustrating to have paid a pretty penny for the chisels and have them unseat as often as they do. I've followed the instructions pretty closely in terms of roughing up the handle and giving is a good whack to seat it.

I am going to try some of the suggestions here--I realize that the point of the handles is to remove them if needed, but I'd rather have them stay in when used and not fall out than have the option of removing them down the road.

woodnthings 02-29-2016 08:32 PM

Exactly!
 
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Originally Posted by deadherring (Post 1290009)

I am going to try some of the suggestions here--I realize that the point of the handles is to remove them if needed, but I'd rather have them stay in when used and not fall out than have the option of removing them down the road.

Nothing like picking up your $150.00 chisel and watching it fall onto the concrete floor in the shop, blade first...... while you are holding onto the handle. :surprise2: Good luck with your solution and post back as to which one worked for you.


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