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icor1031 12-03-2013 08:34 AM

Cheap, Hard wood.
 
I want to make a cutting board. What's a cheap, hard wood that I might find at lowes or menards?

No plywood, please.

Thanks!

Dave Paine 12-03-2013 08:48 AM

Too many conflicts between the desire for cheap, the desire for a hard wood, and the locations where you want to purchase.

They may have some expensive soft maple.

FYI soft maple is one of several species.
silver maple
big leaf maple
box elder
striped maple
red maple

I expect most likely to be silver maple or big leaf maple, but never stated.

They may also have expensive walnut or cherry.

mdntrdr 12-03-2013 08:59 AM

No such thing as cheap hardwood at Lowes or Menards. You need to find a better source. :smile:

Al B Thayer 12-03-2013 09:15 AM

If your just making cutting boards. Cut up some pallet material. Some of it is rock hard and not good for anything but short pieces. Will that be end grain or just fancy multi contrasting wood kind? You might find the pallet wood to be quite beautiful if the end grain were on the top.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

billyp34 12-03-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al B Thayer
If your just making cutting boards. Cut up some pallet material. Some of it is rock hard and not good for anything but short pieces. Will that be end grain or just fancy multi contrasting wood kind? You might find the pallet wood to be quite beautiful if the end grain were on the top. Al Nails only hold themselves.

You should never use pallet material for anything that touches food. You never know what has leaked on a pallet.

icor1031 12-03-2013 09:59 AM

Excuse my silly post. I thought that hardwood meant... hard.

That is: unlike the 2x4s which I can dent with my fingernail. But now I see that hardwood generally(always?) means it drops leaves, instead of needles.
Is Lowe's pine okay to use for a cutting board?

Yes, I want to use the end grain.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wo...sity-d_40.html

Gilgaron 12-03-2013 10:03 AM

Pine is what those 2x4s are made of... you'll want a hardwood for a hard enough wood for a cutting board.

mdntrdr 12-03-2013 10:03 AM

Pine is a soft wood, it wouldn't last very long... :smile:

trc65 12-03-2013 10:06 AM

Not to mention the fact that even the pine boards at Menards and Lowes are not cheap.

icor1031 12-03-2013 10:07 AM

There are a couple of places here that aren't Lowe's or Menards.

What wood do you gents suggest that I ask for?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilgaron (Post 547402)
Pine is what those 2x4s are made of... you'll want a hardwood for a hard enough wood for a cutting board.

Ouch.

Dave Paine 12-03-2013 10:08 AM

Technically a hard wood is from a tree whose seeds have a cover. So balsa, is deemed a "hard wood" although very soft.

A soft wood is from a tree whose seeds do not have a cover.

I do not consider pine dense. I do not think it is a good choice for a cutting board, especially end grain. The grain is too open.

For end grain application you want a tight grained species like hard maple, cherry, walnut, purpleheart, redheart, yellowheart, beech.

I think a dedicated lumber yard is a better source than Lowes or Menards. Also if you have a local Woodcraft they have better selection of species, although not cheap.

icor1031 12-03-2013 10:43 AM

I found 4 of those locally, Dave. The cheapest is the maple(if I wrote down the right one, oops.) @ $5 per board foot.

Dave Paine 12-03-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icor1031 (Post 547426)
I found 4 of those locally, Dave. The cheapest is the maple(if I wrote down the right one, oops.) @ $5 per board foot.

Not a surprise on the price. Not too different than my location.

Once you have the wood, take a look at forum member Kenbo's tutorial on making end grain cutting boards.

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f13/h...-boards-28721/

Masterjer 12-03-2013 10:49 AM

You can't go wrong with maple, walnut, or cherry, and the combination of the three looks very nice. My local big box stores don't carry any of these species, not sure about your stores though. Of the three, maple tends to be the least expensive. I would source a decent lumberyard to get much better selection and pricing.

If you post where you're located, members here will be able to recommend some sources for hardwood.

icor1031 12-03-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Paine (Post 547427)
Not a surprise on the price. Not too different than my location.

Once you have the wood, take a look at forum member Kenbo's tutorial on making end grain cutting boards.

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f13/h...-boards-28721/


Dang, I should wait until I have a planer. Nice link, thanks.

HowardAcheson 12-03-2013 11:07 AM

The best and most used wood for cutting boards are maple, birch and cherry for accent wood. These are small pored woods that will pick up minimal bacteria and be easiest to clean.

icor1031 12-03-2013 11:19 AM

I love the look of some Acacia, but I can't find any of it near me.

MNsawyergp 12-03-2013 11:29 AM

I thought I remembered Menards having hickory, so I looked it up on the Menards website. It looks like they have lots of hardwoods. They may not have the one you want on hand, but can order it in. Have a look...

http://www.menards.com/main/building...er/c-10067.htm

ryan50hrl 12-03-2013 12:15 PM

If your in the Midwest...mills fleet farm sells rough cut hardwood as well. Maple, walnut, oak and others.

If your in Minnesota...vetch hardwoods in Rochester is top notch!!!

FrankC 12-03-2013 12:25 PM

How large of a cutting board are you making, the difference between the lowest cost suitable wood and the more expensive is going to be a matter of pennies for the average sized board. Why cheap out on material, that is sort of like buying cheap tools, buy once, cry once.


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