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enchant 08-12-2019 07:11 PM

Cedar is "naturally rough"?
I posted this in another thread, but I don't think anyone is seeing it, so I'll start this new one.

After buying three 12' 1x6 cedar planks, I posted this review on Lowes:



Inconsistent sizing and milling
I only needed 3 12-foot lengths, but had to pass over a dozen boards before finding anything useful. We're all used to picking through damaged boards, but most of these boards weren't ever once good and got damaged. Many of them looked like they hadn't been milled at all and had that very rough finish to them. The three that I went with had inconsistent widths. Usually, 6" boards will all be 5.5". Mine were 5-1/4, 5-5/16 and 5-3/8.
Lowes replied to my comment:


Empire Team 08/09/2019
Pat, thanks for taking the time to write a review and share your honest feedback. We're so sorry to hear you had this experience. Cedar is naturally a rough wood. These boards are run through the mill but they are intentionally left with a rough finish (See product photos) and sanding is recommended. If you're looking for boards with a smooth finish, we recommend whitewood boards as those are a softer wood. Additionally, with boards, sizing may vary. The common measurements of this board is 1 x 6 x 12 but we must also list the actual measurements which are 0.6875-in x 5.5-in x 12-ft. In manufacturing, a nominal size or trade size is a size "in name only" used for identification. The nominal size may not match any dimension of the product, but within the domain of that product the nominal size may correspond to a large number of highly standardized dimensions and tolerances. For lumber boards, they're commonly referred to by their 'common' dimensions, 1 x 4, 1 x 6, etc. The nominal or 'common' measurements are a boards size before it has been planed (surfaced) on all 4 sides. This is why both common and actual measurements are listed; to provide the industry standard size and final size measurements, during this process it's possible that sizes may vary. Hopefully these explanations help.Thanks again for your comments, sincerely ~ Empire Co Customer Care Team
"Naturally rough wood"? Is that really a thing? I've never heard of that. I assumed that cedar was a solid tree like other woods, is cut into rough planks and milled down smooth, like other wood. No?

FrankC 08-12-2019 07:33 PM

Looking at the photos in the link you posted it is obvious that this is rough cedar used for trim, hence it is called an appearance board.

Steve Neul 08-12-2019 08:32 PM

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Yes and no. People desire cedar wood to have a rustic appearance and being rough sawn fills that need. Some cedar is rough on one side and smooth on the other. Any wood is rough when milled out of a log. It's just other woods are sawn thicker and sent through a planer to it's finished thickness. It's why 3/4" lumber is considered four quarter, meaning it was cut out of a log an inch thick. Then it is surfaced to 3/4". If a person would mill cedar 1" thick and then run it through a planer there is no reason it couldn't be as smooth as any wood.

Packard 08-14-2019 05:32 PM

The lLowes near my house has cedar boards rough on one side and smooth on the other.

enchant 08-14-2019 09:29 PM

The lowes at my house had everything. Some boards were rough on both sides, most were partially rough on at least one side. I bought two boards that were totally smooth on both sides and one that was smooth on both sides except for about 1/3 of one side.

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