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Question Cabinet wood recomendations

I'm planning on custom building cabinets to remodel my kitchen soon and need recommendations for which wood to use. I only have an idea and a couple of sketches so far. I know I want the new cabinets to match my current dining table, which has a very dark stain (I've attached a picture). Is there a certain wood and process that would give me this look?
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You can't really tell from the picture what kind of wood it is. It appears to be a smooth grain wood. The color it is there are several different kind of wood you could use. If you want the wood hard to where it would resist dents then you could use hard maple or birch. If that isn't an issue you could use soft maple, poplar, sugar pine or clear alder. Cherry could also be used but that would be an unnecessary expense.
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Go for the gusto,walnut, I don't think there is a prettier wood,cherry is a close second, but I am not a big staining fan, I like the natural grain
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Based on the color of the table I recommend Birch.

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Natural or stain? Cherry will darken over time. My son has natural hickory in his kitchen- clear finish with no stain of any kind.
I'm thinking the table might be either maple or birch. Both have a fine grain.

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I want to stain to match the wood of the table. Here is a better picture of the wood on the leg of the chair. After doing some google researching on the table. They say it is birch with a Cardovan Dark Cherry stain. Does that mean the two stains were mixed? Thank you all for your responses by the way!
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They say it is birch with a Cardovan Dark Cherry stain. Does that mean the two stains were mixed? Thank you all for your responses by the way!
Not necessarily, and even if they were good luck finding the exact matches for them. If you ever go to a big cabinet shop or furniture manufacturer, their staining and finishing process is an assembly line. Pieces get hung and trolley across the factory. One guy sprays, 20 guys with rags wipe back, piece goes through a dryer, another guy sprays, 20 wipe back, etc.

Staining to get that perfect color is way more involved than wipe on, wipe off. Rare is the case that you'll find anything off the shelf that'll be a one-step process to match your chairs. And birch will require a pretreatment of some sort to prevent blotching. Remember that something as simple as using 180 grit on one side and 220 on the other can drastically change the color.

Get a piece of birch then go buy various dark and light stains. Divide the board into sections and start applying different stains, keeping track of what's going on where.

For further finishing analysis, get on YouTube and watch Charles Neil. He's the master at wood finishing.
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Thank you very much for the information and the suggestion. My wife and I will be going to get a piece of birch and some stains/conditioners this weekend.
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Even if the wood is birch I would recommend using maple. Birch and maple are one of the two hardest woods to tell apart so nobody would know the difference. Birch is a gnarly wood that is terrible to work with. It's prone to twist and warp and when you machine it the grain runs in multiple directions so it is prone to blow outs. Maple is just a lot more stable and easier to work with.
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I'm not dead set on using birch, more wanting a dark rich color than looking for matching the exact wood grain.
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Thank you very much for the information and the suggestion. My wife and I will be going to get a piece of birch and some stains/conditioners this weekend.
Based on table shown, look at these stain colors:
Dark Walnut
Old English
Jacobean

Sometimes we have to mix a couple of stains when necessary but itís always best to find the close match right out of the can.

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Even if the wood is birch I would recommend using maple. Birch and maple are one of the two hardest woods to tell apart so nobody would know the difference. Birch is a gnarly wood that is terrible to work with. It's prone to twist and warp and when you machine it the grain runs in multiple directions so it is prone to blow outs. Maple is just a lot more stable and easier to work with.
Maple as Steve said. Easy to work with and will look great stained.
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You may want to look at poplar also, as it's used extensively in furniture and cabinet construction and is cost effective, here's a link for a better explanation od use.

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/stain-p...nut-36093.html
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