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post #1 of 12 Old 10-12-2009, 06:33 AM Thread Starter
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Cabinet door "channel"?

First of all - what is this groove that runs all the way around the face of the door called?
http://www.rungecabinetry.com/Custom...r-Style_lg.jpg

I tried to use a round nose bit to make the outside edge of this channel, then the inside edge of the channel. Then I took a flat bit and cleared out the remaining material inside. Is this a reasonable process? How would you guys do it?

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I'm a little unclear as to the "channel". If you mean the raised panel relief, I use a raised panel bit.
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First of all - what is this groove that runs all the way around the face of the door called?
http://www.rungecabinetry.com/Custom...r-Style_lg.jpg

I tried to use a round nose bit to make the outside edge of this channel, then the inside edge of the channel. Then I took a flat bit and cleared out the remaining material inside. Is this a reasonable process? How would you guys do it?
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The picture you have posted is a raised panel insert in a 5 piece door, the frame consisting of 4 pieces of the frame, with a "channel" or dado cut on the interior edges of each piece, and a panel with a reduced edge that slips into the channel or groove. It is not a one piece door with a feature routed to look like a groove creating a "frame and panel" look. There is a slot cutter bit for your router table, assuming you have one, or a dado stack to create this groove on your table saw. If you want a rounded edge on the frame then yes, a round over bit with a 1/8" radius will work. Using 3/4" stock and a 1/4" groove cutter will result in a 1/4" step on either side of the panel, inside and outside. You can modify that step in what ever way you choose, bevel, round over etc. The Shaker style doors just leave it square. Hope this helps and was not to elementary. bill

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To clarify - this is the part I am talking about: http://rpi.edu/~doriad/door.jpg

So you're saying that in that picture there are actually some pieces glued on? I think I am interested more in the "slot cutter" router bit, although I can't really seem to find any that would produce anything near that shape online ( I think I just don't have the right search keywords). Are we on the same page?

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Check out Amana Tool or MLCS. They sell a wide range of router bits. There sites have the profile pics that you can look at to find the shape you are looking for.

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A stile and rail set and a raised panel cutter for either a router or shaper will produce a door like you're showing.

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Dave, that isn't a glued on piece. It's a raised panel that is sitting in a groove in the frame.
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Dave, I think you're missing the point here. You do NOT want to glue the panel. The whole point of the panel is that it be allowed to "float" so that the door doesn't crack when the air mositure changes. I suggest you get some information on "movement in service".

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I see I see - I found some cabinets in my house that are the same style. I get the idea. I was actually trying to do this from a solid piece of wood - is that a bad plan? That was my original question - how to cut this "channel" from a "solid" door? I guess that is just a bad question though because this is not how the door should be made at all?
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I see I see - I found some cabinets in my house that are the same style. I get the idea. I was actually trying to do this from a solid piece of wood - is that a bad plan? That was my original question - how to cut this "channel" from a "solid" door? I guess that is just a bad question though because this is not how the door should be made at all?

There is a way to do the "raised panel look" in a solid panel. Once the "groove" is machined, the grain direction for the top and bottom rails would be vertical...if you can live with that. Here is a sample of two router bits that will give the "raised panel look".
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Ok great! If I wanted wider grooves, could I use a bit like that twice and then remove the material between the two cuts with a flat bit? I mean of course I COULD, but is that any kind of acceptable practice?
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Ok great! If I wanted wider grooves, could I use a bit like that twice and then remove the material between the two cuts with a flat bit? I mean of course I COULD, but is that any kind of acceptable practice?

I've used this procedure on MDF slab doors that are painted. It actually looks very good.



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