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The Best Rust Preventers

Did anyone see the article on the best rust preventers in the current issue of Fine Woodworking? I was shocked to see Boeshield T-9 outperformed by WD-40 and a host of others.

I've never even heard of http://www.amazon.com/CRC-03005-11oz-Multi-Purpose-Lubricant/dp/B00192EX10.
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What do you have to do to read the article?

My favorite rust preventive is LPS2 by LPS Laboratories.

Most easily found at a marine supply store. I use on it on the motors and machinery in my boat that is in a salt environment. It also helps keep my refrigerator and freezer in my garage from completely rusting apart.

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George, It's in the current magazine and that's the only link available. You need to join their online content subscription. If you get the hard copy mag. it's only about $15/yr to add. They may make it generally available at some point but probably not while the magazine is on newstands.

They ranked LPS3 (three) highly, but didn't test LPS2.
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Intersting thing was that none of the products tested, wax included, interfered with finishes.

That bowl was perfect right up until that last cut...
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It doesn't surprise me. WD-40 was developed for the navy to prevent rust on equipment on ships. The navy has deep pockets so I figure it's the best.
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It doesn't surprise me. WD-40 was developed for the navy to prevent rust on equipment on ships. The navy has deep pockets so I figure it's the best.
The WD stand's for water displacement . As i am told I use T-9 work's for me no rust in so florida on 6 machines ?
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The WD stand's for water displacement . As i am told I use T-9 work's for me no rust in so florida on 6 machines ?
Yea and the 40 means its their 40th attempt to get it that way.

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It is a great degreaser and cleaner for sliding door rollers and tracks that should never ever have been greased and oiled. If you have a sliding door that sounds like it is running on railway tracks every time you open and close it give it a clean with liberal use of WD40

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I thought it was interesting too that these tested fine with finishes. However I feel like the article is unfinished. It really calls for more information. What was the application process? For paste wax or T-9 did they leave it on a couple of minutes then buff it, or spray on and wipe off? What is the recommendation for particular uses? What about combinations? I haven't had any problems with T-9 either and I am certainly hesitant to use WD-40 on my table saw. I did recently wipe down the painted surfaces of a couple machines with WD-40 to clean and protect. They shined up nicely but I can't speak to long term protection.
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I don't have access to the article, where did paste wax rate and what was the best?

Some time ago, long time ago, for work we did tests on automotive coatings, metal treatment before and corrosion resistance.

I guess there will be a lot of subjectivity as to how this should be tested, however I doubt it that FWW would have access to the test equimpment needed for measuring permeability of moisture through barrier materials as well as the effects of all the factors that start the chemical corrosion process.

All I know is my shop was together one year this May, in storage for 18 months before that and I have no corrosion whatsover after rubbing Johnsons Paste wax on liberally, and leaving it 2 1/2 years ago, in central NC.

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>>>> It doesn't surprise me. WD-40 was developed for the navy to prevent rust on equipment on ships.

From the WD 40 web site:

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In 1953, a fledgling company called Rocket Chemical Company and its staff of three set out to create a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry, in a small lab in San Diego, California.

CLOSE QOUTE

Here's the relevant web site: http://www.wd40.com/about-us/history/. Interesting stuff.

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The problem with waxes is that they provide little or no resistance to water vapor. They work fine for liquid water. Boeshild T9 is primarily a wax so it does not do well against water vapor.

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I don't have access to the article, where did paste wax rate and what was the best?
Paste wax was in the middle of the pack with Boeshield. They didn't really specify in an order other than a top seven. http://www.amazon.com/CRC-03005-11oz-Multi-Purpose-Lubricant/dp/B00192EX10/ was the one recommended with LPS-3 and WD-40 close behind. It's worth picking up the magazine, but I really do think they need a follow up as it left a lot of questions remaining.
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I haven't seen the article, but Wood Mag did something similar a few years ago. T-9 topped their list that included WD-40, so I'm curious how the two tests got different results....could have to do with climate during the test. Here's another test where T-9 did well.

FWIW, I've gotten great results from T-9 for several years.
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I haven't seen the article, but Wood Mag did something similar a few years ago. T-9 topped their list that included WD-40, so I'm curious how the two tests got different results....could have to do with climate during the test. Here's another test where T-9 did well.

FWIW, I've gotten great results from T-9 for several years.
Thanks for posting that. The problem I have with this test is that it is not realistic, comparing equipment in a closed shop, hidden from the environment. While the thunderstorm may have lifted some of oils and not the T9, over time in a closed shop, the barrier properties against permeation of moisture and natural minerals may not be the best, resulting in different actual outcomes.

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