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post #1 of 12 Old 03-05-2017, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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Bag or no Bag

I have a rigid 16 gal shop vac with the super awesome filter on it.

Do I need to use a bag? They are expensive and seem unnecessary.

Sawdust and wood chip is 90% of what I suck up

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post #2 of 12 Old 03-05-2017, 06:01 PM
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I have that vac also

I don't use a separate bag over the filter. I have used the same filters for years with good success. I bang them on the concrete being careful not to damage the pleats and then blow them from the inside out with compressed air. The bags are recommended for drywall dust as far as I know, but they would be so messy to take off that it would be self-defeating and dust would get everywhere. I do everything as far as cleaning outside, even when it's cold, just tough it out.

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my trick

try strumming the pleats with your fingers - that loosens any caked on stuff with less damage 'threat' from banging / tapping.

eventually some light tapping does work nicely to dislodge stuff packed in the top/bottom bits by the seals - but the strumming is a lot less intensive.
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post #4 of 12 Old 03-05-2017, 06:34 PM
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I use CleanStream washable pleated filters in my ShopVac for woodworking. I have two so I can swap, wash, and dry. I used drywall bags in addition to the filters when I sand stuff like drywall compound.

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So do you put the bags in the vacuum?


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post #6 of 12 Old 03-05-2017, 07:44 PM
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Drywall bags fit inside the vac canister and wrap around the filter. They don't go over the filter. They attach onto the port inside the vac and form a bag inside like a big, hollow C shape.

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post #7 of 12 Old 03-05-2017, 10:53 PM
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Once I started using bags I'LL NEVER GO BACK!!!. It eliminated the stop and clean and I can get 3-4 times the usage due to not stopping and cleaning the filter, I don't lose vacuum power as the filter clogged. I use the ones rated for drywall due to I never know if it'll be fine or coarse debri. Yes they're a little pricey BUT they out weigh the headaches!! You know kinda like the cordless tools when they came out....pricey but hard to justify until you finally breakdown and try them.....whew saved alot of time stretching cords!!!! and now they're getting stronger and more reliable for their purposes.

BAG IT I say!!!!!

edit: YES I use them for general cleanup and also saw dust/chips 90% of the time. We also removed the filter....no purpose for it with a fine hepa type bag.

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no filter?

So Tim, you don't use a filter? You just line the barrel with the bag and enclose the discharge port like this?


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I use Oneida Dust Deputy system in conjunction with my shop vac. This eliminates cleaning / emptying the shop vac.
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I'm a bagger as well, bag, and filter. It is a true bag as shown above, not a filter wrap.

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I use Oneida Dust Deputy system in conjunction with my shop vac. This eliminates cleaning / emptying the shop vac.
I find it hard to believe you never have to clean your vac filter...
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I find it hard to believe you never have to clean your vac filter...
Once you use the Dust Deputy, it will difficult to go back to the standard way of using a shop vac for woodworking.


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post #12 of 12 Old 03-06-2017, 09:41 PM
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So Tim, you don't use a filter? You just line the barrel with the bag and enclose the discharge port like this?

Yes that's correct WT. I use the bags made for fine dust and use no filter. We had the oversized hepa filter for air flow...once removed we just left the under frame/cage that holds the turn over and water level motor protector. Makes removing bag easier and also checking fullness, with filter on, the motor would remove BUT according to fullness it might not go back into the bag if not full to remove.

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