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post #21 of 31 Old 03-05-2013, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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I would put a toekick on it even if you put a decorative legs on it. It will be nearly impossible to keep the floor clean. You could paint the toekick black so it really doesn't show up.

I'm puzzled with the depth of the cabinet. I normally make the cabinet to where it recesses at least an inch from the corner of the rock. That way the counter top doesn't protrude past the wall. With what you have the counter top will protrude past the stone.
Steve, thanks. I plan to recess the cab. It is not at it's final depth and the counter top will not protrude past the stone. The plan is for the toe kick behind the legs to be made of white oak to match the floor. So it will give the illusion of being open while not being open.
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Seems if you do to one side you need to do to the other. Meaning, if you base the one side, you will need to base the other. You will have exposed sheetrock if you don't. Whether it's a short piece, shouldn't matter. Either that or stop your base at the corner and finish with quarter round to the leg and same with other side, stone to leg. The only problem with that is, is if you plan to match cabinet opposite side of fireplace, you have a long wall instead of corner, which you would need to run base to cabinet. Geez Louise man! My head hurts... just run base on both sides, move both legs in 3/4" and be done with it. On the stone side cut a return at the sheetrock.
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Seems if you do to one side you need to do to the other. Meaning, if you base the one side, you will need to base the other. You will have exposed sheetrock if you don't. Whether it's a short piece, shouldn't matter. Either that or stop your base at the corner and finish with quarter round to the leg and same with other side, stone to leg. The only problem with that is, is if you plan to match cabinet opposite side of fireplace, you have a long wall instead of corner, which you would need to run base to cabinet. Geez Louise man! My head hurts... just run base on both sides, move both legs in 3/4" and be done with it. On the stone side cut a return at the sheetrock.
LOL! now you feel my pain. Yes, your suggestion is the most likely one. In the end I'll play with a few different layouts and then choose the one I like the best. But I don't always think of all the options so I welcome the suggestions.
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If I am understanding you correctly, you want legs, and a toe kick behind the legs. To me that just sounds like it would look weird (ie - confusing)

I think you can't have it both ways: it is EITHER a piece of furniture (with legs), OR a built in (with a toe-kick).

Having some hybrid thing would look like you couldn't decide what it is.

If you are dead set on having legs, then go all the way and put legs on it and make it moveable so you can do what you should be able to do with furniture: move it.

So, what is it: furniture or a built in? Make a decision and go with it.

If I were doing it, I'd lose the legs and make it a true built in with a toe kick. And I'd leave it there if I were to ever sell the house and move.

Just my $0.02.

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If I am understanding you correctly, you want legs, and a toe kick behind the legs. To me that just sounds like it would look weird (ie - confusing)

I think you can't have it both ways: it is EITHER a piece of furniture (with legs), OR a built in (with a toe-kick).

Having some hybrid thing would look like you couldn't decide what it is.

If you are dead set on having legs, then go all the way and put legs on it and make it moveable so you can do what you should be able to do with furniture: move it.

So, what is it: furniture or a built in? Make a decision and go with it.

If I were doing it, I'd lose the legs and make it a true built in with a toe kick. And I'd leave it there if I were to ever sell the house and move.

Just my $0.02.
Thanks Chris, I hear you. I would just say you may have missed the fact that the Legs will be painted white like the cabinet. But the toe kick is clear finished white oak that matches my hardwood floor. The effect is that it looks open under the cabinet but avoids it actually being open where dust and dirt will accumulate.

This is not my invention. I saw this same treatment on a built in done by a master cabinet maker at a friends house. Only difference is it wasn't set in between two walls.

That said, I do appreciate the .02 After all I did ask for opinions.
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While I have been guilty of missing info in the past, I actually didn't miss that info this time.

Regardless of the fact that a master craftsman made one like that or not, I still think it makes it look like you couldn't decide what it is.

But at the end of the day, it is your thing, and you will live with the decsion you make, and your choice. I respect that 100%.

Let us know what you decide. Peace.
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I can see how your design will look. I don't see a problem with it looking weird as long as your leg height and depth and distance between kick and leg are appealing. Good luck and keep posting progress
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Hi All,

I wanted to say a quick thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I updated my build thread in the project showcase and resolved how to handle this issue.

I installed the base this past weekend and mocked up just about every suggestion. Turns out the one I thought looked best was simply moving the left side foot over to accomodate the base sliding in behind it and leaving it off the fireplace side all together.

Putting a stubby piece of base on the fireplace side looked weird and leaving flush without turning it toward the cabinet didn't look finished to me. The good thing was since the base cabinet is 40" wide the eye really couldn't tell (unless you know to look for it) that the left leg is moved toward the center. Also, my baseboard is only really 5/8th's thick so the foot didn't have to move much.

I know lots of folks thought I should have just left this foot detail off but I really like it. I think it looks much more custome thatn a traditional toe kick. Thanks for all the help!
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Nice illustration, by the way. Didn't need to be pretty. Lots of posters write text like yours, but include no drawing and get only requests for clarification. You got your problem across to everyone on the first shot.
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Oh oh! I got it! How about put a mirror as the toekick. Then your floor will look as if it continues underneath.
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I'm sure you are done by now but what I would have done is raise the cabinet what appears to be about half an Inch so it is above the baseboard and then you could just butt your leg up tight to it. Would give it more of a free standing appearance also by not having the base notched to fit it.
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