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post #21 of 32 Old 06-22-2013, 06:41 PM
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Ive watched these cabinet installers install the rails. They build the frames totally on the workbench and attach them with angle brackets.
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post #22 of 32 Old 06-22-2013, 09:02 PM
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Set the frame back from the front ...

Setting the frame back a little will eliminate the need for an exact match, a shadow will "hide" a color deviation. It will look intended also, rather than attempting to be flush and not perfect. Keep the frame as narrow as possible because you're just hiding the fixtures, and the only way to see them would be to lean over and look upward. A normal person standing will not see them.
Nice looking cabinets BTW!

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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post #23 of 32 Old 06-22-2013, 11:20 PM Thread Starter
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What a great board this is. People still caring about my little problem.

I think it is solved. I decided to make my own rails. First I had to do a lot of experimentation with color and finish. What worked is cherry wood, stained with Minwax Red Mahogany 225, with a single coat of satin finish Arm-R-Seal oil and urethane topcoat.

The rails are 1.5 inches high and 3/4 inch thick. I laid many routed patterns on some samples so my wife could pick the one she thought matched the cabinets best. The best part of that exercise was that she bought me a Bench Dog Pro-Top router table to get the job done. Yes, I won the wife lottery 31 yrs ago.

I am using 6 x 1 7/8" drywall screws, countersunk, to attach to the underside of the cabinets. The cabinet bottoms are particle board covered with a Formica-like laminate mostly. In some places the bottoms are instead solid wood, but most surfaces are laminate.

I am backing up the screws with contact cement where there is laminate, and wood glue where the shelf bottom is wood. I'm very pleased with how strong this arrangement is feeling. I think it will help to prevent particle board sagging over the years, a bonus I had not thought about.

Thanks, everyone .
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Pics?
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Pics?
I was into photography in the 1970s, when it was actually harder. Now that it's easy I've gotten...what is the word for it? Oh, yeah. LAZY. I'll have to clean the kitchen, find the camera, take the pics, boot up the ole Windoze laptop, build a few projects while waiting for the laptop to boot up, connect the camera to the laptop(now where did I put that cable?), take six guesses as to what my Photobucket password is, exceed the limit on login attempts, request a new password, upload the pics, then relearn how to post pics on this board.

But I owe it to you guys for being so helpful.
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Here are a couple of pics that roughly match two pics in the original post. It doesn't look dramatic. It just looks "normal" to us.




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Those turned out great! Don't you just love it when a plan comes together.
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Those turned out great! Don't you just love it when a plan comes together.
I very much love it. Making and installing them myself was so much more rewarding than sourcing pre-made light rails and using those. They would have been made of different wood and would have been very hard to color-match. I also would have had no control over the profile. You can barely see it in the pics, but there is a small cove cut on the bottom edge of the rails - my wife's choice for profile.

Best of all, I got a drill press and set of counter-sink drill bits out of the project.
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Great job Mark!

UC lights are hidden and the color match is dead on.

So you drilled and counter sunk the bottom of the new rails?

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did in his
sleep. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car.

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Great job Mark!

UC lights are hidden and the color match is dead on.

So you drilled and counter sunk the bottom of the new rails?
Yes. See my June 22 post, above, for details. Re-reading that post reminded me that I got a really nice router table out of the deal, too!
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I missed that Mark.

Drilling and countersinking the screws at the bottom of the rails would be just as effective but less time consuming than pocket screws.

Good call.

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did in his
sleep. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car.

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Came out really nice Mark! The color is really spot on considering it looks to be a different wood and the factory finish is always so difficult to replicate. Great work
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