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post #41 of 50 Old 04-22-2013, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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@Cabinetman.. ok thanks for the info. Sounds kinda like how I had to file off the excess of the formica end caps. I didn't have a file meant for laminate and my husbands file was too aggressive so I just used one of my fingernail files.... worked great! (the advantage of being a resourceful girl LOL). I think I may have to go buy me a mill file as you suggest though. I hope all goes well with the banding a little scared cause I have never used it before and I know the wood is very thin and I would expect the adhesive to be pretty strong. My husband will have be the helper this time! (good for him he was on a bike trip this past weekend, he won't escape this next time :-)
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@rrbrown... we did try to contact company that we ordered from and they have ignored us. I believe it was clearly their fault. This was truly and upsetting situation for us to be ignored.... that being said... we were able to fix this mess and move on. I have no intention of blasting this company and I think in general they do good work.. their biggest fault being not wanting to take responsibility for this, which I understand is huge. Had we not been able to fix this situation I definitely would have disputed payment with my credit card company for a response from them till it got fixed. Mistakes happen ... but would I order from them again NO, would I recommend them NO. This initially created an unhappy experience that we have made into a positive one. Thankful for all the help and suggestions here in this forum.
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@rrbrown... we did try to contact company that we ordered from and they have ignored us. I believe it was clearly their fault. This was truly and upsetting situation for us to be ignored.... that being said... we were able to fix this mess and move on. I have no intention of blasting this company and I think in general they do good work.. their biggest fault being not wanting to take responsibility for this, which I understand is huge. Had we not been able to fix this situation I definitely would have disputed payment with my credit card company for a response from them till it got fixed. Mistakes happen ... but would I order from them again NO, would I recommend them NO. This initially created an unhappy experience that we have made into a positive one. Thankful for all the help and suggestions here in this forum.
I'm glad you got it straight and that your happy to move on. However to just move on and do nothing encourages them to do the same thing again next time. Next time someone else gets screwed over by the same people it may be worse. A good company does good work, stands behind it and cares about there customers and there reputation. If they are lacking in any of those things then they are not a good company. With a little experience in negative feedback they may still become a good company but they must own up to the mistakes they make first.

I'm just trying to encourage you to help protect the next guy. Wouldn't it have been nice for someone to have done that for you.

Good luck and I'm glad you were able to fix the problem.
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@rrbrown You are absolutely right. It is important for the next guy and yes if this is how that company works it would have been nice to know from the beginning. I will find a way to convey my experience and disappointment constructively for the next guy. Thanks for your input
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If I had proof that I had submitted the correct dimensions to the company, I would have disputed the bill (with the credit card company) the minute that the door manufacturer refused to correct the work.

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I'm glad you got it straight and that your happy to move on. However to just move on and do nothing encourages them to do the same thing again next time. Next time someone else gets screwed over by the same people it may be worse. A good company does good work, stands behind it and cares about there customers and there reputation. If they are lacking in any of those things then they are not a good company. With a little experience in negative feedback they may still become a good company but they must own up to the mistakes they make first.

I'm just trying to encourage you to help protect the next guy. Wouldn't it have been nice for someone to have done that for you.

Good luck and I'm glad you were able to fix the problem.
It may be worthwhile to explain exactly how this mistake was made. Richard was right, in that solving the problem (whatever that was) will help the next guy. Well, maybe the next guy is on this forum, and about to order doors.

I've ordered many doors over time, and what was asked is length (height), and width. When I get the doors, they are either right (most all the time) on those dimensions, or slightly larger, but not larger than 1/32". This allows for any sanding that may be done.

Those are the only two dimensions that matter to them. If a mistake was made in reading the dimensions, and the submitted dimensions were different than the actual door sizes received, the company would and should have stood by making an exchange. If the door sizes received were the dimension of what was submitted, you can't blame the company.





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I kinda agree with rrbrown. You should of had at the very least have someone come in and measure for you.

But with that being said

You didnt not show us what the inside of the F/F look like. Im guessing that there is some sort of gaps in the f/f where you added the filler piece.

Because you are painting these doors what I would do is go the extra step and use some bondo to fill any sort of line or gap in the f/f and sand smooth to hide any gaps. Do this prior to painting.
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Measured Cabinet Doors Small

I know this might be a late entry but apparently this is a common mistake when ordering new door fronts and one that can be a really expensive boo boo if your only choice is to reorder the doors. I recently measured our doors exactly 1 inch too small which made them all the same size as the opening. I was told by the company to add molding to the surround or the back of the door and/or try different hinges but nothing was going to work or look as good as the beautiful doors I'd purchased. I was really upset and ready to give up and reorder the doors and eat the $2500 when a happy accident occurred that has fixed the problem perfectly and the doors actually look better than the originals. We were doing a total gut job reno on our new house and the garage was full of our supplies including different types of molding for the whole house. The day the doors were delivered and I pulled them out to see what my options might be I happened to look over at our pile of moldings and I got distracted as I pulled out a piece of tiny molding that was supposed to be for our baseboard caps but was way way too small. I was already in a bad mood thinking "oh great" something else was wrong but when I was inspecting that tiny molding and accidentally had it right next to the cabinet door I was inspecting I had an ah ha moment that saved our kitchen and our budget. The molding is sold by Lowe's:

http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?...&storeId=10151

It is called EverTrue 1/2" x 8' Interior/Exterior PVC Stop Window Moulding. I actually ordered it by accident - I was trying to purchase the 1 1/2" baseboard cap which looks very similar but it much larger. This product is $2.78 per 8 ft piece and it's a PVC product so it's solid but bendable and can be cut. You'll need to measure out and cut 45 degree angles to make a "picture frame" to attach to the outside of the door. When you put this molding flat side back to the side of the cabinet door - you cannot tell that it's not part of the door. It adds exactly a half an inch to every side of the door which is what is needed if you've measured the opening and not added the 1 inch they tell you to in order to have a perfect sized door. We attached the molding with little dabs of liquid nail and finishing/small brad nails. Any holes from the nails were filled, sanded and painted. There were no gaps due to the awesome construction of that molding and it looks wonderful. This was done for all of our cabinet doors and drawer fronts with no problems at all.

The cabinet doors we ordered were the beadboard center and they look great - Once we've hung them I'll post a picture so you can see what it looks like but just in case I thought I would post this to hopefully help someone else. I measured the doors perfectly I just forgot to add the inch. I think I was just so worried about getting it right that I totally missed that step overthinking everything and if you're on a budget this fix could be under $120 rather than spending 3k on another set of doors. Hope this helps someone - I had a lot of trouble finding a simple yet doable fix for this problem. Hope it helps!

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If you are dead set on using the doors, I see only one option, because you can't inset the new doors.
I would shim-out the face frame by adding the width of material needed to the bottom of the opening and the side where the hinges will be mounted. Use a soft wood (pine or poplar for your filler.)
After painting, you will be okay.
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