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post #21 of 27 Old 08-06-2020, 09:29 PM
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Your intuition is spot on about the KV255/256 shelf standards. I've been using them since the 1970s. They can't be beat for durability and strength. I even have a special staple gun that shoots them with 5/8" long narrow crown staples. That works best for the steel track. Aluminum track is sort of weak.

Go with the pin holes if you like the Wal-Mart/Ikea look.
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@gmercer_48083:

You use screws to install them? The K&V standards come with nails. I'd rather use screws, as I don't like the feeling of banging on my work with a hammer. AND: I just installed some yesterday and the white paint on the nail heads chipped off.

What screws do you use, exactly?
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@Bob Vaughan:

Ah, so that's what those two little horizontal holes are for.

Can you share with me the products you use to staple?

How does the staple not protrude too much from the surface of the standard? Seems that would required the shelves to be cut a little shorter to avoid hitting the staples..

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For those interested, here's a photo of a set of these that I just installed last night. This is not the project I was talking about in my original post. This is a smaller project - just a single cabinet. I had already ordered all the hardware for this project when I started this thread.
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Turned out nice. In the cabinet shop we will run them full length to the bottom. Eliminates much thinking...
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@Bob Vaughan:

Ah, so that's what those two little horizontal holes are for.

Can you share with me the products you use to staple?

How does the staple not protrude too much from the surface of the standard? Seems that would required the shelves to be cut a little shorter to avoid hitting the staples..
While industrial air tools are made for that purpose, I made an indexing tongue for an old Senco KN4450 I had and use it. The staples countersink into the metal if the air is properly regulated and shelf length isn't effected. One has to be really gentle with aluminum track. Staples are much quicker than nails or screws and hold quite well, particularly if the staples are coated. Some care has to be taken when using the staple gun but for me its generally worth it.

I think screws would look nicer but finding the right length with a proper fitting head that won't lay proud of the shelf track has been a problem for me. I remember looking into it decades back and found that the special size screws made for shelf track came in 20 lb cartons per each finish color.
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You use screws to install them? The K&V standards come with nails. I'd rather use screws, as I don't like the feeling of banging on my work with a hammer. AND: I just installed some yesterday and the white paint on the nail heads chipped off.
What screws do you use, exactly?
Steven - to address the chipped paint on nail heads. after you finish the job,
put some matching paint in a spoon and dab some paint on the nail head
with a toothpick or Q-tip - whatever works. (even WhiteOut type correction fluid).

when a project comes along that requires a specific color of screw heads,
I find the screws either online or at the Box Store that fits the project.
put them in a small bottle with some acetone, agitate well, spread on paper to dry.
then, get a piece of cardboard, poke it full of holes with a sharp object,
put each screw into a hole, spray paint with the desired color and let dry.
I usually use plain ole RustOleum. (paint a few extra).
if you chip the paint during installation, use the same touch-up technique to fix it.

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