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post #21 of 48 Old 05-31-2009, 06:34 PM
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The messages keep saying birch plywood. Isn't BALTIC birch very different than plain birch? In my neck of the wwods the price difference between baltic and plain birch is large.
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Baltic Birch is a multi layer plywood, usually 9 layers or more, while Birch plywood is usually 5 layers.

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I get the russian BB at my lumber yard for 45 bucks a sheet, 4x8, 1/2" thick.
You can surely get "Birch Veneered" plywwod in that size for that price but you are NOT getting Russian BB (Baltic Birch) in that size for that price.

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Ed, I have to disagree with you. The local menards carries russian birch 4x8 sheets. Yes it DOES come in 4x8 sheets, and before you tell me I don't know what russian or baltic, or finnish, or aircraft ply is, I have to tell you that yes I do. I was skeptical at first when I heard that a borg store was carrying it, but yes it is the real thing. The catch is that it's the lesser bb and sometimes even cp grade. As long as there is a large enough pile to go through, you can find quality sheets, and the 3/4 is only $60.
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Yes, and it is way nicer than Menards stock.
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This is where I buy most of my ply.
Here's their link for BB and Europly panels.
http://www.russellplywood.com/multiplypanels.html
The last sheet of 1/2" true baltic birch I bought was $138.00 for a 4 x 8 sheet.

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Wow, Rob, you sure like to spend the money! Even 5x5 sheets from my local hardwood dealer that are grade B are only $35 for 1/2", and $50 for 3/4. I can't see a 4x8 being that much more since there is only 7 square feet more of material.
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I get the Euro Maple and only spend about $100 a sheet. It is a 48 1/2 x 96 1/2 and 5/8" thick with 9 plys. It is a B grade on both sides. Much better than the Baltic birch or the Russian birch.

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Try searching all the suppliers in your area and if you can, go with Norbord ply, canadian made and really really good and reasonable.
Havent bought in a while but I was getting shop birch 3/4 for 45 and prefinished 3/4 Maple 2 sides for 75.
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We are producing UV Prefinished Cherry, Maple, Birch, Alder, Kahay and Sapele Plywood. Many US company are buying our plywood. It is the lower cost and the quality is better than that before 2005.
The prices will be 30-40USD per sheet to US port. We also are supplying some furniture factroies.

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I was under the impression that true Baltic Birch came in only 5X5 yet I see that this gentleman at Warner construction refers to 4x8 ???
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Heres some prices from my local lumber yard

http://www.peacocklumber.ca/products.php



Birch (Rotary) Plywood per sheet
Core Grade 2 x 4 2 x 8‚
4 x 4 3 x 7 4 x 8
3mm Veneer G1S (AW4*) 20.79 31.95
5.2mm Veneer G1S (A4W1*) 9.95 18.95 33.95
1/4 (G/Sol) Veneer B2 45.95
1/4 Domestic Veneer G1S (A4) 39.95
1/2 (S2S)Paint Grade Veneer S2S (D3) 45.95
3/8 Veneer B2 51.75
18mm( Import ) Veneer BW2W 51.95
3/4 (B2) Domestic Veneer B2 20.85 37.70 68.35
3/4” (D3) Paint Grade-Domestic Veneer S2S (D3) 53.75
9/16 Particle B2 15.05 25.75 44.75
1/2 Veneer B2 17.40 33.25 60.50
18mm paint grade (Imported) Veneer DW3W 41.15
3/4 Particle B2 14.29 27.40 47.65

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(2/10/2009) Baltic Birch Plywood (Ideal for Scroll Work) per sheet
Grade No. of ply in Core Core 5 x 5’ 5 x 10’
1/8” (4mm) BB/BB 3 Veneer 18.95
1/4 (6mm) BB/BB 5 Veneer 22.75
3/8 (9mm) BB/BB 7 Veneer 30.75
1/2 (12mm) BB/BB 9 Veneer 35.95
5/8 (15mm) BB/BB 11 Veneer 44.95
3/4” (18mm) BB/BB 13 Veneer 52.50 169.50
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Maple (Rotary Sliced) Plywood per sheet
Core Grade 4 x 8
1/8 Veneer G/Sol (AW2) 34.95
1/4” (5.2mm) Veneer G1S (AW4) 47.95
1/4 (AW2) Veneer G/Sol (AW2) 49.65
1/2 Veneer G/Sol (AW2)) 65.95
3/4 (AW2 WF Domestic) Veneer G/Sol (AW2 WF) 77.25
3/4 (B2W2 Import) Veneer G/Sol (B2W2) 60.95
3/4 (D3) Veneer S2S (D3) 54.25
3/4” (AW2 Domestic) Veneer G/Sol (AW2) 75.95
5/8 (AW2 WF) Veneer G/Sol (AW2)) 70.75
(10/14/2009) Red Oak (Flat Sliced) Plywood per sheet
Core Grade 2 x 4 2 x 8‚
4 x 4 3 x 7 4 x 8 4 x 10
3mm Veneer G1S (A4*) 15.95 25.95
1/2 Veneer G/Sol (A2) 64.35
1/4 (A4-G1S) TV Veneer G1S (A4*) 32.95
1/4 (G/Sol A2) Perf. G/Sol (A2) 53.35
5.2mm Veneer G1S (A4*) 8.50 15.40 28.95 129.95
1/2” Particle G/Sol (A2) 54.45
3/4 (4x10) Veneer G1S (A4) 169.45
18mm(G/Sol A2 Import) Veneer G/Sol (A2) 65.45
3/4 (G/Sol A2 Domestic) Veneer G/Sol (A2) 24.25 45.2 69.85
3/4 Particle G/Sol (A2) 18.40 35.20 58.50
3/4” (G1S) Particle G1S (A4) 52.50

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What is with the different prices? Which is the real price?

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http://www.peacocklumber.ca/PriceBookContents.asp

Click on page numbers to see product and prices

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Well, I was at my local hardwood supplier and the old timer gave me an education in plywood. He said regular hardwood plywood (birch, oak, maple,etc) will be layers of soft and hard woods. There may or may not be any layers from the same wood as the veneer. Baltic birch is all birch. Every layer is the same hard wood and there are virtually no voids. This makes it much more stable than regular hardwood and is why you can get a near perfect edge. It is also why is more expensive.I will not even go into all the details on why to steer clear of the chineese stuff.
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Well, I was at my local hardwood supplier and the old timer gave me an education in plywood. He said regular hardwood plywood (birch, oak, maple,etc) will be layers of soft and hard woods. There may or may not be any layers from the same wood as the veneer. Baltic birch is all birch. Every layer is the same hard wood and there are virtually no voids. This makes it much more stable than regular hardwood and is why you can get a near perfect edge. It is also why is more expensive.I will not even go into all the details on why to steer clear of the chineese stuff.
It's just plain common sence why you should'nt buy the Chinese stuff.
Also you get what you pay for theses days , not like the olden days where every thing you bought was qualtity and made in America

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The imported (China) plywood has not worked out for me no matter if from the big stores or from specialty hardwood supplier. The panels warp and twist and have dog legs and can not be counted on to provide a flat surface. I ended up spending $75 a sheet for domestic stain grade (A-1) birch even though I painted the project. Ouch but cheap compared to the wasted time trying to save $30/sheet. The import core material does not seem to be placed in uniform layers during manufacturing and to veneer must be painted on to be so thin.
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I'm getting ready to do a freebee for my son and DIL, fireplace surround w/ base cabinets and bookshelves. Because of their limited budget I was planning on using birch plywood from the borg. I am familiar with the piss poor quality of some of this stuff from previous experiences. After reading here that Lowes had better plywood and to avoid Home Depot's like the plague, I went to Lowes today, but I passed on their plywood. Stamped Made in China and rough as a cob, so I went to Home Depot and there the employee told me they no longer get the Chinese stuff and sure enough, stamped on the edge Made in USA. He said it comes out of South Carolina. Cost was $39.95. Bought 6 sheets and we will see how it goes. I think for this application (fireplace surround) it should be alright....hopefully.
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The messages keep saying birch plywood. Isn't BALTIC birch very different than plain birch? In my neck of the wwods the price difference between baltic and plain birch is large.
I am a newbie just learning to fix things up around the home, but I can comment on 3/4" ply from HD and Lowes. I bought a couple of sheets to make a cabinet stand for my chop saw. Both the guys at Lowes and HD recommended Auroco (sp) for about $35 over the $40 dollar birch they were selling. This one face Birch ply had quite a few patches and defects on the show side. I wouldn't say it was junk, but only that it is good enough for a power tool stand but I wouldn't use it for anything better.

Someone at the DYI chatroom had recommended Baltic Birch. Baltic is quite a bit different from the $40 Birch sold by Lowes and HD. Look at the number of plys and the lack of voids. I didn't go with it because I didn't see why anyone would pay that much plywood. It was around $75 a sheet and it is hard to find full 8X4 sheets of it.
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After having the chinese garbage for $35 a sheet for the last few years, my local HD is stocking Columbia Maple ply for $39 a sheet. The extra $4 a sheet is more than worth it, and $39 is much cheaper than the local plywood supplier, nevermind I can pickup sheet on the weekends and nights.

The Baltic Birch at the local lowes is stamped Made in Ecuador.
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Try searching all the suppliers in your area and if you can, go with Norbord ply, canadian made and really really good and reasonable.
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Thanks skymaster. Never heard of Norbord, Is it like Appleply?
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