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post #21 of 26 Old 10-06-2020, 02:19 PM
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I'm calling BS on the "high quality wood isn't available today" I can think of at least 5 species that are as good or even better than old growth heart pine, douglas fir, white and yellow/long leaf pine not even looking at synthetics. World trade pretty much squashed the "they don't grow them like the used to" talk. Old windows can be referbished/reconstructed to a pretty high energy efficiency. The jambs get insulated, weather seals added and sashes replaced with insulated glazing. It's very expensive at roughly $1000 for an average sized older home type window. Removable storm windows are also a good option to keep the look of the old windows. Basically they are single pane glass, center rail in a wood frame with weather seals.
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post #22 of 26 Old 10-19-2020, 01:01 PM
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I renovated 20 or so windows in my 1927 house. Removed all moulding, stripped the paint, replaced the sash cord, installed weather stripping, and reglazed all window panes. It took me about 20 hours per window. I was slow at reglazing and a pro would have done this part much faster. I believe that original windows with a quality storm window are about as efficient as a modern window. Its really neat to have the original windows that open and shut with ease.
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post #23 of 26 Old 10-20-2020, 01:24 PM
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Congratulations, Gravely, for seeing through a laborious but worthwhile project. Storm windows went out of favor in the window industry as sealed double pane glazing became the norm, but they do a great job and can help a window last a very long time. I have a few in my house and enjoy every winter the frost patterns that build up on the outer pane--something that has been a part of winter for me since childhood.

I did lab testing of windows for a while, and have this tip. The inner window should be weather-stripped to be more air tight than the storm window. This draws less rain water past the storm sash.
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post #24 of 26 Old 10-20-2020, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DrRobert View Post
That's total BS!

We replaced all the windows in our house last year. Our electric bill is easily 25% lower.

But boy, they ain't cheap!

What is it that is "total BS?"

Certainly if you replace single pane windows with double pane energy efficient windows you are going to have lower electric bills. Has nothing to do with new or old growth wood. For energy efficiency wood structure or vinyl is better than aluminum.


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I talked to my brother in law in Florence. If interested he will talk to you about replacement....
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post #26 of 26 Old 10-20-2020, 07:04 PM
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I have worked with old windows often. Most of them were white pine or white oak. Also a few times the sash was heart pine ( old growth yellow pine). Almost all the sash held up well , sons house is heart pine from 1843. Sash was in fair condition, no rot but not perfect wood either.
I replaced his windows with Anderson vinyl covered wood. The glass was mostly newer panes , about 1/2 were old wavy glass. He kept these sash in his basement and later sold them.
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