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Historical question.

Didn't draw America! Why?
Somebody knows?
I think there lived malicious tribes which did not allow to come on the territory.


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1774... The land had not yet been defiled.

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Like mdntrdr said, it's because of the date on the drawing. In 1774 that land that isn't drawn was still considered unknown. Nobody knew what was up there except for the few tribes that were already there. Unfortunately, we didn't know about them yet either so nobody knew what to draw. 1774 means the map was drawn roughly when the original colonies were formed. That's just the northeast corner of what will be the USA. Very little was known about the west at the time.
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Like mdntrdr said, it's because of the date on the drawing. In 1774 that land that isn't drawn was still considered unknown. Nobody knew what was up there except for the few tribes that were already there. Unfortunately, we didn't know about them yet either so nobody knew what to draw. 1774 means the map was drawn roughly when the original colonies were formed. That's just the northeast corner of what will be the USA. Very little was known about the west at the time.

It is interesting.
on Russian cards too isn't present!



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The map is dated June 1774, a little over 2 years prior to the start of the American Revolution. At that point, it was a bunch of colonies of England limited to the eastern seaboard. The wars with France and Mexico have yet to be fought, no Louisiana or Gadsden purchases had taken place yet... And it was a long time away from Louis and Clark's expedition along the Oregon Trail to say nothing of the Siege at the Alamo, the Battle of San Jacinto, or the many exploits of Steven F. Austin, Sam Houston, or James Bowie. But I digress into U.S. history 102 and Texas history 101....

Simply put, that map is a snapshot of time in the messy history that is the history of North America...

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It is interesting.
on Russian cards too isn't present!



http://rezanov.krasu.ru/epoch/atlas/map05.jpg
I don't think I would want to navigate by that map! Sadly I don't read Russian, what is the date on that?

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This has me thinking. Aside from the obvious geologic errors, modern maps aren't a whole lot better. Political alliances and control change. The maps and globe I had as a boy are useless today. There is no longer a U.S.S.R., and many borders on the African continent have changed as well... I suspect in another 30 or 40 years, many more borders and nations will have changed. From the looks of world wide activity, I suspect the changes will be most noticeable in the middle east...

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Didn't draw America! Why?
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http://www.libs.uga.edu/darchive/har...ps/1774d82.jpg
I do not understand your question.

The map in your link shows all of North America and Central America and some of northern South America.

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1774... The land had not yet been defiled.
Who defiled the land?

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Who defiled the land?

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Our ancestors... and we are still doing it today.

Native American: 200 generations...
White man: 20 generations... You can't drink the water.

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Our ancestors... and we are still doing it today.

Native American: 200 generations...
White man: 20 generations... You can't drink the water.
I live on tap water. I drink it every day. I never get sick and haven't even had the flu since I was 7. That was the last time I through up.

Defiled land is open to interpretation as to just what constitutes defiled. I like defiled land. Played a great round on it not too long ago. Defiled land drives better too. Nothing more pleasant than a newly paved road.

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I live on tap water. I drink it every day. I never get sick and haven't even had the flu since I was 7. That was the last time I through up.

Defiled land is open to interpretation as to just what constitutes defiled. I like defiled land. Played a great round on it not too long ago. Defiled land drives better too. Nothing more pleasant than a newly paved road.

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I have to agree on that. Saying that something is defiled is certainly a matter of personal definition. I think that our ancestors took a wild and potentially great land and turned it into that something great.

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I have to agree on that. Saying that something is defiled is certainly a matter of personal definition. I think that our ancestors took a wild and potentially great land and turned it into that something great.

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I have to agree George.

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Saying that something is defiled is certainly a matter of personal definition


Or... the indisputable definition,



de·file1    [dih-fahyl]
verb (used with object), de·filed, de·fil·ing.
1.
to make foul, dirty, or unclean; pollute; taint; debase.
2.
to violate the chastity of.
3.
to make impure for ceremonial use; desecrate.
4.
to sully, as a person's reputation.





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I do not understand your question.

The map in your link shows all of North America and Central America and some of northern South America.

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Why there is no part of the map of North America?
South America (including the Strait of Magellan) is.
I can't explain it???
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I live on tap water. I drink it every day. I never get sick and haven't even had the flu since I was 7. That was the last time I through up.

Defiled land is open to interpretation as to just what constitutes defiled. I like defiled land. Played a great round on it not too long ago. Defiled land drives better too. Nothing more pleasant than a newly paved road.

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You have all in the future!
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That's a pretty good map for its time. The cartographers probably had access to Spanish maps which provided the details of Mexico, the American southwest, and the California coast up to "Drakes Harbor" (now known as San Francisco Bay); and Russian maps showing Siberia, the Bering Sea, and the Alaskan, Canadian, and northern California coasts. Not many people know that the Russians had a trading post at Ft. Ross on the California coast.

The lack of detail for the American and Canadian West is probably due to the lack of any major exploration at that time, and the lack of large rivers in the Plains States. The Indians didn't do maps, and the fur trade was still a few years in the future. After the Lewis and Clark expedition in 1804, much of the Louisiana Purchase was thought to be a useless wasteland. Thomas Jefferson thought that it might take a thousand years to fully explore and populate the area. Instead, the fur trade resulted in major exploration of the mountains, and a desire to own land got the region populated in less than 100 years.
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