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post #1 of 30 Old 01-02-2011, 08:12 AM Thread Starter
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Back pain

Have abused my back for decades and it looks like "you reap what you sow".Have been out of commission "this" time for a week.Done the GP thing.Chiro thing.......decent core/abs to the point of even working on them and overall fitness in general.Really scared of the knife(surgery)and have made it a point to work on fitness even more.

Wifey-poo is all into yoga which is overthetop cool/benificial.....I just can't get into it.Am thinking possibly Tai-Chi......?

Anyway,ya'll say a little prayer for my back......thanks,BW
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Having been through a lot of back problems myself, the first thing you need to find out is what is the source of the pain. Where do you hurt?
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Lower back.

As its been explained to me;its the cushion God built inbetween the disks.As we get older that cusion deteriorates.....and in my case decades of lifting stupid heavy stuff....and its disc to disc contact causing sharp pain.

So its a degenerative condition that I have accelerated being "indestructable".There isn't enough bandwidth on here to list my injuries.Between 40 years in construction and an equal amt of time riding/wrecking go-fast MC's the O.L.D. issue ain't looking to positive.BW
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Sorry to hear. I've been facing nearly the exact same issues since 2000. My neurologist refused to recommend surgery though since it happens in bouts. He was kind enough to tell me I have the back of a person 40 years older than I am.

I'd recommend following docs orders but here's a few tips I've picked up in the last decade. Feel free to confirm with docs.
Ice is your friend.
Walking daily will help loosen you up.
Stretching can injure you so pay attention when doing it.
Keep the excess weight down.
When it's out, ibuprofen helps.
Muscle relaxers make sleep possible, but don't take them often if you can avoid it.
Get a TENS unit to help with pain when it's bad. Just remember to rest it because it masks pain all too well.
Chiros are great but if you go as often as they demand you will go broke. With or without them it takes time to get back on your feet. Go when it's bad, but go monthly when it's not.
Sleeping on my side (fetal position) has helped recover faster following outages.
Last but not least, you are no longer super man and have physical limits. Know it's okay to take a new safer approach and to get some help.

Good luck and I hope you are vertical again soon.
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I had surgery on Oct. 1st for a bulging disc and two pinched nerves on L3 and L4. I couldn't walk more than 20 feet (with a cane) before needing to take a break. Pain was 8-9 out of 10. After surgery (over night stay) I walked out to the car by myself. About 6 weeks recovery time to get lifting strength back up. Couldn't pick up a gallon of milk before. I restrict myself to 40 pounds or less now, but feel just fine. Walk as much as you can and think about what you are picking up and how. Doctor said "Lift with your brain first". Also avoid BLT.....that is bend lift twist. Your bod wasn't built for that motion. Don't be afraid of surgery, in the long haul you're better off. Good Luck
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I know what you mean about abuse, I've done it all to myself also and paid the price with 2 surgerys and a lot of pain over the years. My pain is mostly in the leg and hip with muscle spasms and numbness at times. If your bad spot is L4-L5 you might consider the last surgery I had, it is outpatient surgery called a MITR that was done by the dr in this link http://www.neurosurgerysa.com/arnold_vardiman.htm#, it takes about 30 mins, 1" scar and most folks go home within 3 hrs of surgery, 1 week off of work. I had that one Aug of 09 after a more major orthopedic one in May of 97 that took over a month to go back to work from. I tried everything else before the first one including accupunture, chiro and pain management to no avail. I was afraid of the knife also, but it gets to the point you can't live with the pain and there is no alternative. Good luck!
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Wicked curve to the right(wifey says too much limbaugh), I see a bone cracker every 3 mos, or I get in trouble. MD's never really helped much.
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Good luck with your back issues and pain management.
I had a spinal fusion surgical procedure in April 2007 and it gave me my life back. Before surgery, I was hoping someone would take me out back and shoot me to put me out of my misery, but noone would. Now I am happy to report that I'm almost 100%. I still can't stand up for too long, like 30 minutes or so max, but at one time I could barely stand long enough to pee. My doc told me not to be that guy who helps move refrigerators any more, that I should loan them my truck instead.
If you end up seeking the knife, talk to a nuero surgeon as opposed to an orthopedic surgeon. There are so many nerves involved that you want someone trained in that area.
Again, good luck to you.

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S1-L5 herniated disc w/ fragments...felt like a hot poker in my left buttock, pain in the left leg, weak ankle, numb foot. Has a discectomy and the bones trimmed on Nov. 15. I could feel the knit in the little socks the hospital put on me while I was in the recovery room, perfect results. I went in at 6:30 am, walked out at 4:00 pm ( I chose to lay there an extra 4 hours). I stayed home for a month, then went back to work as a construction equipment mechanic, on light duty. By the end of January, I plan on playing basketball. For my situation, surgery was the best move.
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In case Ya didn't notice..

At the bottom of every Thread is a bunch of related topics like these:

Just what the Dr. ordered for back pain Ledhead Off Topic 7 05-06-2010 11:25 AM
Swearing Helps Tolerate Pain bradleywellsoff Off Topic 2 07-13-2009 08:55 PM
Oh the pain. joesdad Off Topic 12 12-28-2008 02:20 AM

Now back when I was goin' to a Chiro paying $90.00 a visit...I'd say..." Doc after I spend a few hours splittin' wood my back don't hurt anymore"....so I stopped going, and split more wood.
Now my back is hurting again...everything I seem to own /buy/collect...tools, wood, ammo.... is heavy and has to be moved, loaded or unloaded.
I should also say when I flip my mattress over once a week it feels better also. I have one of those recliner chairs and that probably doesn't help, unless I recline it all the way back and stretch my back out...but then I can't see the TV... bill
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After I retired from the Air Force I purchased a feed store. Of course this then required that I carry around 50 pound bags and square bales of hay. Used to unload 10 tons of feed by myself, bag by bag. Did this for 9 years until I expanded and purchased the place next door and could use a forklift.

Fifteen years of this caused by L5 and S1 disks to compress. I would get shooting pain down my right leg. The orthopedic doc I went to sent me to a physical therapist. He put me on a regime of exercise that has controlled this problem for the past 15 years.

Good luck to you and I hope you find something similar.

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Thanks to all!!!

Looks like a common problem.Got a nice little surprise yes. when one of my girls(sons S.O.)brought me some best seller book.It filled in a few missing areas.

Would say the problem starts with major stress.....which goes unattended.....then a little too much non-moving/concrete fl standing.......then get azz on shoulder and lift or otherwise do some stupid twisting nonsense and BAMB.....major back issue.

Gotta chill on the coffee,drink more water.Don't drink beer cause it always made me gut pregnant,cpl shots of single malt Scotch every now and then.Would spend more time in our weight rm but it bulks up too much muscle.Am 5/10 205.....anymore bulk and it is an interference.Love walking.Its probably stress......BW
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My back problems are more muscle than anything. The doc suggested laying on the floor with my calves on the coffee table supported by pillows. The objective is to get the weight of your legs off of your pelvis. Do it 4 to 6 times a day for about 15 to 30 minutes. The results are amazing.

Use the right tool for the job.

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Seems like anyone who works hard and plays harder will have an issue at some point. My suggestion would be to keep active, stick to a little "medicinal therapy" (although I find bourbon is better than single malt) :^)

See a real good back specialist, let him/her do an MRI, and be there while it gets read. Then come up with a plan that works for you.

Best of luck to you, and to anyone who's hurting.
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My Chiropractor said my back also was like the back of someone 40 years older.I told him I'm 63 years old!

***For the record*** Ive made hundreds of guitar bodies,never put one together and cant play a note.
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Two visits to my 500SL driving Chiro has back good as new........


Did a stress relieving experiment last night watching Orange Bowl.Cpl drinks and a BUNCH of laughing it up.The laugh till you cry part has done as much good as "SL boy",haha.BW
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Tai Chi will actually have a lot of similar benefits that the yoga would have, though it looks almost as silly to people watching. Good part is, nobody has to see you do either of them if you do it at home.

Hope your back feels better soon. Back pain is the worst kind of pain.
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My dad 86 has two split discs. I recently went to Florida to see him. He hand dug a fish pond. My mom yelled at me to take the shovel and don't let him over do it. He replied it only hurts when I'm done working at night. Wish I could get him back home and hire him as some of my guys will call out if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction.
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MH;My dad was extremely active well into 80's....wishing the best for you & yours.

frank;Thought(wrongly?)that Tai Chi was more on point?IOWs more martial arts on the aggresive side....where yoga is calmness and balance and a key to meditation.Got the whole positive mindset and how to unlock zen moment from several sports(archery,racing M/C,studying sports psych)....so as much as yoga works,its lacking in a cpl places.BW
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I have back issues too, and like your wife am into the yoga solution.... BUT..... there are a million different types of yoga. To get the best bang for buck whatever you do, the program should be customized for YOUR back. Iyengar yoga is one type that does this, and an MD-doctor has written a book that has been such a great help I have it loaned out to friends more than its on my shelf....
http://www.amazon.com/Back-Care-Basics-Doctors-Program/dp/0962713821
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