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Open staircase with hickory and wrought iron

This is one of the more complicated projects Iíve tackled in my house. Open staircase, made of hickory. The treads are only 3/4Ē with 1 1/4Ē trim with returns. To achieve the newel posts and all the other resulting posts I took a 4x4 of Douglas fir. I attached that to the stair stringers, and through the subfloor to any joist or wherever I could obtain a solid attachment. The newel post I built up with some scrap 3/4 material. I than built panels for each side of the posts and attached. Made a couple caps and trim out of walnut with my router. Finished off with wrought iron spindles I got from Home Depot. The only part I did not mill myself is the railing. Found some that were finger jointed and now kicking myself for not making my own
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That looks great!

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Very nice ,looking, wish the first pics were right side up, it's tough on my old neck bones twisting my head that far LOL
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Very nice ,looking, wish the first pics were right side up, it's tough on my old neck bones twisting my head that far LOL
Lol, sorry about that, I’m not sure why they loaded like that
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Great job! Thank you for posting the pictures and describing your project.
How was the hickory to work with? As a wood to dry it can be quite contrary and move a lot depending on how it was cut.
What did you fasten the treads with?
The plugs look to be square. Very nice touch, Walnut?
What was there before this build? Was there something temporary or and existing stairway that did not trip your trigger?

Ok I'll take a breath and let your respond to some of this. Then I'll ask some more questions!

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Hey, the hickory wasnít to bad to work with. It has a tendency to occasionally gouge and chip while planing it. Didnít experience much movement. I made my cabinets as well out of hickory so I had some experience with it. Love the look of hickory. All my lumber is kiln dried.
I fastened the treads with construction adhesive and screws. Hard to see it in the pictures but each tread has 8 screws, 2 in each stringer. I used a square mortise bit for these screws to set in and than Plugged it with walnut. Gives it a little character, hides the screws, and does a nice job of securing the tread.
This was a new house so before this project I had temporary stairs made from 2x6ís. After 2 years of living with the temporary stairs this was Quite an upgrade.
Thanks for the kind words
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Excellent!
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Beautiful ... X2

Beautiful wood and beautiful workmanship. Nice blend of wood and metal.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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Looks very nice, the entire house does. My neck is sore from rotating to see them, but still good work. I really like the stone work too, it all compliments well.


As a side note, different programs store the rotation matrix of the image data differently, that's why images look correct on your phone but then the web browser may see a sideways orientation. Just variances in the image reader implementations.
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Would a moderator please correctly orient his photos?

Your workmanship is awesome!

If you load your photos to a PC, then in a photo editing/viewing program. You can spin them around, then save them to your PC, then upload to this site, and they will be correctly displayed. It seems that photos from phones are often displayed incorrectly if you don't do some type of alteration/save before uploading. Hope this helps you.

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Is the floor random width boards? I like the look and in some places boards side by side match really well. What is the flooring wood? I was going to guess ash but quite a bit of color difference.
How are your doors trimmed? they look great, looks like 2 parts on the top.
Did you make the doors?

I kept looking for the timber framing!

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Very nice ,looking, wish the first pics were right side up, it's tough on my old neck bones twisting my head that far LOL

Agree. I think they look good, but I gave up trying to see then after 2.


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Let’s see if these pics load the right way
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I edited some of the pics and I think they’re right side up this time, they’re in the thread.
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Looks very nice, the entire house does. My neck is sore from rotating to see them, but still good work. I really like the stone work too, it all compliments well.


As a side note, different programs store the rotation matrix of the image data differently, that's why images look correct on your phone but then the web browser may see a sideways orientation. Just variances in the image reader implementations.
I shrunk them down and they seem to load correctly this time. They are posted again in this thread. Thank you!
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Is the floor random width boards? I like the look and in some places boards side by side match really well. What is the flooring wood? I was going to guess ash but quite a bit of color difference.
How are your doors trimmed? they look great, looks like 2 parts on the top.
Did you make the doors?

I kept looking for the timber framing!
Timber framing would be my dream! I’m not sure why I didn’t explore that option more when we were going through the planning phases, I guess because I didn’t know of any framers around here that specialized in that type of construction. Maybe the next house &#x1f633;

The flooring is random width, it is hickory as well. Long story, I had unfinished white oak down and it was fantastic until it started shrinking and gapping. The guy who milled it agreed to give my money back. It was a mess. I than went with a prefinished hickory by Chelsea flooring. It is awesome. They provide a very nice product.
The top of the door trim is a 3 piece system. Bottom slat is 1/2” wide, top is 3/4”. I’ll include a pic.
Doors are from menards and again I was very surprised at the craftsmanship. The middle panels are solid alder, there’s some veneer on the edges but for the price they can’t be beat.
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After I made my posting about floor possibly being Ash I thought no too much color variation. Also I am assuming you are in the west coast area and not really an Ash wood area. It is a very nice floor. Your new pictures are fantastic.

Considering the stair case, I may have to do similar. We want to build a house and the stair case is an amazing $ consumer! All most as bad as chimneys! We have champagne taste on beer budget as the saying goes. In our existing home I replaced the 2x stairs and finished the stair case to our basement and it was not too bad. It was no where the level of finish and dramatic wood use as yours.

Interesting to hear about the doors. We don't have Menards here in NC where I can go and look at and touch and would not want to order site unseen. I may have to look around some more put more thought in interior doors. I had planned to make those too if/when we build a house. But the list of things I am looking at trying to do is getting much longer; finish work, interior doors, vanities kitchen cabinets too), basement drop ceiling and possible wall finishes..... yada yada yada. Also, my pace of work is no where near yours.

I like the door trim with the multiple pieces. The 'craftsman' style is appealing. The additional wider pieces at the top really make a difference and cause them to be eye catching. How wide are the trim pieces? I would like to mimic this type look with maybe a bit wider, can catch more dust that way! I may try walnut on the top. Lots of ideas, we'll see how many come to reality.

If you have some, would you post some pictures of your cabinets?

Told you early on I'd have lots of questions. Your taste and recent experience in your home is kinda where we are though maybe 4 years behind you. We are in process of getting plans and costs. In the second or third round.... budget trim trim trim!

Thanks again!

BTW don't aim to hijack your thread from the staircase but one thing lead to another.

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great craftsmanship, and nice and clean work!


labor of love, right?
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After I made my posting about floor possibly being Ash I thought no too much color variation. Also I am assuming you are in the west coast area and not really an Ash wood area. It is a very nice floor. Your new pictures are fantastic.

Considering the stair case, I may have to do similar. We want to build a house and the stair case is an amazing $ consumer! All most as bad as chimneys! We have champagne taste on beer budget as the saying goes. In our existing home I replaced the 2x stairs and finished the stair case to our basement and it was not too bad. It was no where the level of finish and dramatic wood use as yours.

Interesting to hear about the doors. We don't have Menards here in NC where I can go and look at and touch and would not want to order site unseen. I may have to look around some more put more thought in interior doors. I had planned to make those too if/when we build a house. But the list of things I am looking at trying to do is getting much longer; finish work, interior doors, vanities kitchen cabinets too), basement drop ceiling and possible wall finishes..... yada yada yada. Also, my pace of work is no where near yours.

I like the door trim with the multiple pieces. The 'craftsman' style is appealing. The additional wider pieces at the top really make a difference and cause them to be eye catching. How wide are the trim pieces? I would like to mimic this type look with maybe a bit wider, can catch more dust that way! I may try walnut on the top. Lots of ideas, we'll see how many come to reality.

If you have some, would you post some pictures of your cabinets?

Told you early on I'd have lots of questions. Your taste and recent experience in your home is kinda where we are though maybe 4 years behind you. We are in process of getting plans and costs. In the second or third round.... budget trim trim trim!

Thanks again!

BTW don't aim to hijack your thread from the staircase but one thing lead to another.
I’m actually located in Michigan, we have tons of ash up here but most of it is all dead now from the ash bore.

Honestly the stairs were not that bad to do. A little time consuming making all the parts and than fitting them. I thought the handrail and posts would give me a huge fit but they didn’t. There’s lots of videos to guide you. I think overall I have $1600 into it. The hickory i got from the lumber company was classified “rustic” so it’s a little cheaper. I believe I paid $2.25 bd ft.....You mentioned chimneys, I’ll include a pic of the one I did. Next to woodwork, stonework is a lot of fun. That is one large fake chimney. It’s an electric fireplace, so it’s not a functioning chimney.

The trim around windows and doors is 3 1/2” wide and is made from alder, same as the doors.

I understand trimming the budget, sweat equity goes a long way. I did all the interior work myself except for countertops. It’s nice to be able to go higher end on material and still come in lower than it would have cost to get a lesser product and pay for labor.

Where about in NC are you looking to build?

I like answering questions, that’s how we all learn. Fire away
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labor of love, right?
It has to be, every time I get through a larger project I tell my self that will be the last one for a while but I find myself searching for the next one within days. I get depressed if I don’t have a project going on
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