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I did buy second hands 2 boats windows three days ago.. I have a problem.. They look a little yellow.. How can I clean it? They have to look white..

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What do you call it? I don't know English name.. I didn't find it at dictionary
I did buy it yesterday night..

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@faith michel Your statement........I did buy second hands 2 boats windows three days ago.. I have a problem.. They look a little yellow.. How can I clean it? They have to look white..
OK, I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you referring to the frames or the lens(window)?
If frames, you may have to sand and paint. if you are referring to the lens(glass) there is usually not much you can do to it except replace it. If you plan on replacing it, you have nothing to lose by trying to save it if possible. Go to an automotive place with the window and they should have something than can polish it up to clear again. They will be able to tell you.

AS for the black part with the white roller, I have no idea what it is or used for.

Sorry I could not be of much help.
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@faith michel Your statement........I did buy second hands 2 boats windows three days ago.. I have a problem.. They look a little yellow.. How can I clean it? They have to look white..

OK, I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you referring to the frames or the lens(window)?




Sorry I could not be of much help.
Please don't be sorry This is my mistake.. I am sorry for my bad English

My question is about frames (screens)

They wait in white vinegar 2days

They look white now...

The lens are not glass..

I think They are plexiglass..

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@faith michel Your statement........I did buy second hands 2 boats windows three days ago.. I have a problem.. They look a little yellow.. How can I clean it? They have to look white..





AS for the black part with the white roller, I have no idea what it is or used for.
We use it for boat anchor chain..
Here examples..
I don't know English name..

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I will do these in my workshop now.. I don't know English name neither..What do you call it?
I don't want to buy metal versions.. Because They are very expensive.. I can do that in my workshop..

Here examples.. I don't know dimensions..

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the "nautical" English name is "cleats"


a device which allows a "line" aka non-nautical=rope to be fastened/restrained.
for light/?medium duty, wood is an artistic option.
for heavier duty, wood is not a good option as "failure" aka "it broke" can be catastrophic - hence the non-ferrous / chrome plated options.
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the "nautical" English name is "cleats"


a device which allows a "line" aka non-nautical=rope to be fastened/restrained.
for light/?medium duty, wood is an artistic option.
for heavier duty, wood is not a good option as "failure" aka "it broke" can be catastrophic - hence the non-ferrous / chrome plated options.
Thank you so much for your answer..
Your right.. Wooden Cleat is a bad idea and a bad choice .. I have to think whole bad probability.. My security is important..

I will buy second hand chrome cleats.. Maybe I can find cheap price...

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The windows that turned white from the vinegar have probably had a chemical reaction with the vinegar. Vinegar is an acid, I think it is acetic acid by name. It is a weak acid, but will react with metals, limestone and many other things. If it changed the color, I dont believe it could be reversed. Some people actually do that on purpose for privacy inside.

Also note that the window "glass" is probably LEXAN and not Plexiglass. Lexan is better in lots of ways including strength. A little more expensive but more than worth the extra charge. Besides they are small.

I have seen wooden cleats, but I would not recommend them to be used for anchoring or docking. You can use them on your mast to hold the halyards when you coil them up. Also on the coach roof top near the rear edge to hold some spare lines. You can also put one or two on the underside of the boom to tie off when reefing the main sail.
Also look into making lazy jacks and these wooden cleats will be oh for that.

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I just looked back at some of the photos. I think the yellow youo are talking about is on the frame not the clear part. If that is correct,
is the yellow part on the inside or outside part of the boat?

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What size boat....large?

For a smaller boat maybe even a medium size one, consult a good sailor for his opinion, you could use a stainless steel plate under the top of the attachment bolts. The bolts would have to shear/break off or pull through the hull for the cleat to come off. The plate will distribute the pulling forces to both bolts and help avoid the wood from splitting. They would need to be tighten or checked regularly for optimium performance.



On the other hand, a nautical engineer may not approve this idea, no matter what changes or improvements you make . I donno? Maybe there is a safety inspector for boats? By the way, you did a beautiful job making these! Someone you likes sailing would want to have one for a shelf ornament or display.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)

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Faith - I second the opinion of you did an excellent job on the cleats.
on the WoodenBoat forum, people that have wooden boats, use wood cleats.
reading some of the info on them, you build them to accept 3/8 - 1" line.
and the fasteners (stainless steel bolts) must be twice the breaking or shear
strength than the line. so it takes some research in the whole project to make
it safe for you and your boat. but, bottom line is, people use wooden cleats all the time.
proper grain orientation is the most important part of the wood itself.
and must also support a 250 pound person stepping on the horn and breaking it off.
the same information is available for wooden hand rails that go along the cabin.
looking forward to following more of your journey in your boat build.
www.woodenboat.com is a great source for boat related concerns and issues.

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