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Now watch your property taxes go up because you fixed it up so nice LOL
Wouldn't surprise me. The city I live in has recently gotten ridiculous, thinking the city is more "fancy" and wealthy than we are. We have several cities nearby that are very high wealth, and they seem to want to have that image, but we are still just a redneck town with 10k people... If I were going by the rules, I would have already paid probably more in permits, and wasted more time waiting on them, than I have spent in materials and time to do the work. They even want you to get a permit to paint a mailbox... My moms neighbor had to stop and go get a permit when the inspectors driving around saw him painting his mailbox... That makes my blood boil even thinking about it. I'm not paying the city a minimum of $30 to paint my own damn mailbox.

But luckily, I just got a property/home valuation in the mail a few weeks ago, so my taxes for the next few years will be based on that, which was just under $100k. That's one good thing about this area, is home values and the cost of living is pretty low compared to a lot of other parts of the country. Once I'm done fixing it up, I bet my value will be $20-30k more than that. I'm on about 1 acre, right next to the city park. Pretty good location.

Finished up wiring in the kitchen, cut out and painted the kick plates for under the cabinets, finished off the baseboards in the living room, and scribed out my bar top to fit around the trim to sit flush on the wall. Will start the poly on it tomorrow, and should have it installed by the end of the week, which will pretty much complete these two rooms, aside from crown molding, which will have to wait. Funds are starting to dry up, and I have to sell some more inherited assets before I start on the next stage of the renovation.
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We have 45 acres we paid $888.88 per acre in 1995, it was just plain old dirt back then, no electricity, no water, no nothing. Since then we pulled in a single wide to live in until my fantasy farm could be built, since then we have built 17,000 sq ft in "shops" my woodworking shop is 1500 square ft, machine shop is 3000 sq ft my welding/whatever shop is 9000 sq ft and a 3500 sq ft shop for tractors and other stuff close to the 3200 sq ft house, we built on the banks of the 9 acre pond we had dug. That was dug by a D10, a D9 Caterpillars and 6 19 yard scrapers working from sun up to sun down for 26 days, they moved over 70,000cu yds of dirt

A couple months ago 60 acres sold across the road from us for $15,000 per acre, I am so glad for the ag exemption, and since I am a disabled vet they can't raise our taxes any more.

When we moved here we were way out in the sticks, but since then it seems like everybody wants to move out here, but the way it is situated, the closest neighbor is about 1/2 mile away, and that is our son in the single wide

I am so glad I busted my a$$ when I was younger and could stand to do it, to make enough money to pay for all my toys, and being debt free also makes money stretch a lot farther
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We have 45 acres we paid $888.88 per acre in 1995, it was just plain old dirt back then, no electricity, no water, no nothing. Since then we pulled in a single wide to live in until my fantasy farm could be built, since then we have built 17,000 sq ft in "shops" my woodworking shop is 1500 square ft, machine shop is 3000 sq ft my welding/whatever shop is 9000 sq ft and a 3500 sq ft shop for tractors and other stuff close to the 3200 sq ft house, we built on the banks of the 9 acre pond we had dug. That was dug by a D10, a D9 Caterpillars and 6 19 yard scrapers working from sun up to sun down for 26 days, they moved over 70,000cu yds of dirt

A couple months ago 60 acres sold across the road from us for $15,000 per acre, I am so glad for the ag exemption, and since I am a disabled vet they can't raise our taxes any more.

When we moved here we were way out in the sticks, but since then it seems like everybody wants to move out here, but the way it is situated, the closest neighbor is about 1/2 mile away, and that is our son in the single wide

I am so glad I busted my a$$ when I was younger and could stand to do it, to make enough money to pay for all my toys, and being debt free also makes money stretch a lot farther
Dang, you got a great deal. I wish I had a sense that allowed me to see future growth. There are so many places around here that were completely undeveloped 20 years ago, that today is probably going for tens or hundreds of thousands per acre. The parents of a friend owned land in my town for decades, nothing around, and about 15 years ago they were bought out so they could build a WalMart, a Lowe's and a strip mall on it... needless to say, they are now quite wealthy.

I wish I had more land to play with. I'd love to have some heavy equipment to play with, like a big kids sandbox. I used to operate equipment out of high school, and I miss it.
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Dang, you got a great deal. I wish I had a sense that allowed me to see future growth. There are so many places around here that were completely undeveloped 20 years ago, that today is probably going for tens or hundreds of thousands per acre. The parents of a friend owned land in my town for decades, nothing around, and about 15 years ago they were bought out so they could build a WalMart, a Lowe's and a strip mall on it... needless to say, they are now quite wealthy.

I wish I had more land to play with. I'd love to have some heavy equipment to play with, like a big kids sandbox. I used to operate equipment out of high school, and I miss it.

In Texas they have a thing called the Veterans Land Board, you can borrow money from the state with 5% down and a little lower interest rate. Right before we started looking they raised the max from $20,000 to $40,000, the land we got was from two older sisters that had inherited it, and they wanted cash, so they could spend it while they were still able. They originally were asking $56,000, but had never gotten any offers, the real estate agent told us they would probably got for the $40,000, and they did luckily

When we started looking we wanted about 5-10 acres, we are so glad we went this route, but while doing it there were some real lean months as the expenditures were pretty high sometimes. Really the one thing I hated was the rock we had to have brought in for the roads, the nearest rock to us is about 100 miles in any direction, so a semi load was about $800-1000. Our drive way is over 1/2 mile long, I quit counting when we got to 40 semi loads LOL
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Weather is still slowing progress... Kitchen sink in, all hooked up and working. That's a HUGE step for me, since I've been without a large sink for washing up things for over a month. Counter tops secured, got a few other small things done today. Over the next few days, it's small things like making a backsplash for the counters, a light fixture for above where the stove will go, which I'll make out of wood and iron pipe. I'll also have iron pipe shelving above the counters. I like that industrial look. Pantry doors still need to be finished up and hung, and thresholds need to be put down. Lots of quick, easy jobs, if I could just focus and knock them out. When it gets to this point of any project, I start getting scatterbrained and can't concentrate, and just end up walking in circles...

Got the sink and faucet used on facebook for $20. Can't beat that. Moen faucet, and the sink only has a few minor blemishes.





My mom couldn't help herself and went ahead and started hanging curtains, even though we aren't quite at that point yet. But she's helping, so she can knock herself out.

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Looking very good, and I am sorry about the hijacking of your thread
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Not a problem. :smile3:

I don't think we will ever have a dry day here again... Another slow day. Got the bar framework finished last night, and primed it earlier. I'm at that point in the project where I'm losing enthusiasm and just want it to be done... so I already had some maple blanks already cut, jointed and planed for table legs... so I just stole them and routed an edge on them and threw them up there. I was going to do something more fancy and ornate...but nah. Just notched them out 2.5", and notched out the long center beam to rest in the notches on the side pieces. Sides are screwed in with two 2.5" screws, and 1 center 4" lag bolt, that's hidden under the long beam in the middle. I was hanging off of it to make sure it'll hold up to potentially 6 crazy drunks leaning and hanging off of it... it should be fine...

Top has the first coat of poly, but somehow I failed to notice how low I was on GF high performance, so now I get to make an hour and a half round trip tomorrow for the nearest store that carries it... probably in the rain.



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Loving this thread. Keep it coming. Great work so far.
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Loving this thread. Keep it coming. Great work so far.
Thanks. This is something I've wanted to do for so long, and I'm enjoying the process so far. I had envisioned having more money to work with, and not trying to live in the house while I worked, but those are just challenges to overcome. I would have done it much sooner with another house, but because of some dumb financial decisions I made when I was a teenager, I've been living with my father since college (10+ years). Which was fine, he enjoyed the company, and we got along well enough. I helped out with bills where I could. If I had more money at the moment, I'd be doing things a bit differently, but this is what I can do for now, and it'll have to be good enough. It'll still be a great finished product, though. The big holdup right now is the damaged part of the house. I can't really finish the living room back wall, or flooring, or paint all of the ceiling until I repair and replace what needs to be done there. Once I do, I can finish the rest of the flooring, finish painting those walls, finish painting the back of the living room ceiling, finish the trim work, and move onto the bathroom. I'm really dreading seeing what the repairs are going to end up costing, and how much labor will be involved. I know I'll at least have to pull up all of the flooring, rip out interior walls and make necessary temporary braces, and remove a 6' wide section of exterior wall, then replace joists, rebuild walls, replace subfloor and drywall, and live with a gap in the siding in the back of the house... I can do most of the labor, I just need a little guidance from one of my dads good friends, who is a contractor. Pretty sure I know what needs to be done, but I'd like to at least have a second opinion before I tear into it.
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Got the bar top in. It has developed a little bit of a bow in it, but I can pull it down flat when I fasten it down to the frame. Also need to trim around the top where it meets the column. Good size bar though, it can easily seat 6, maybe 8 if people stuff themselves in at the corners.

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Slightly better shot of the top, at night lit by the overhead pendant light. Not sure about the light, though. It looks cool, but having an exposed bulb just above your line of sight with other people across the table is a bit blinding and distracting. I got the lowest power bulb I could get, but it's still a bit much. I could hang it a foot higher, and it would be better, but it would look slightly goofy only hanging on a 6" long cable...

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This might be a dumb question but did you apply the same finish to the top and bottom? If not that can very well cause some bowing
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This might be a dumb question but did you apply the same finish to the top and bottom? If not that can very well cause some bowing
Even though I know better... I didn't. I did go back and put one coat on the bottom after the top had cured. It was already slightly bowed when I got it, but I'm sure I helped it along.
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Even though I know better... I didn't. I did go back and put one coat on the bottom after the top had cured. It was already slightly bowed when I got it, but I'm sure I helped it along.

I have made that mistake a time or two, it seems when you are on a roll and wanting to get the project finished, we over look what we know won't really be right.

But the good news is when the weather dries out it will be level then, kind of like a broken clock is right two times a day
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Yeah, I'm not too terribly worried about it. Sitting on the frame, the center is only lifted about 3/8" over the 36" wide span. When I fasten it down, it'll pull flat and hopefully won't be an issue. It already has some cracks and flaws in the surface anyway, so another crack or two won't matter, if the unthinkable happens...

And yeah, it was a case of wanting to get it done. Didn't want to go through the hassle and extra time of finishing both sides the same way. If it were a piece for someone else I would have absolutely done it right... but like usual, with my own pieces I sort of rush through and move on to something else.
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Slow progress this week. Trying to take care of other things. I did have the time to finish one set of my kitchen shelves today. Turned out well enough. I like the industrial look of the iron pipes, and I used gun blue to match the hardware. I did it sort of backwards from how I normally see them used, which is supporting from the bottom. Takes up a little storage space, but these will mostly be for glasses, and I don't have that many. I do have my best plastic and foam cups and cutlery up there for the time being...

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Finally have hot water again after more than a month... So nice! First hot shower is going down soon, to wash off all of the crawlspace grime. You never quite appreciate what you have, until you don't...
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Pending sale of one of my tractors, to allow me to finish up the first floor and exterior of the house, I'm trying to decide what route I want to go with new siding. I'm slightly worried to see what lies beneath the existing masonite panel siding, as it used to be somewhat common practice here in the SE at least, to install masonite without plywood/osb sheathing. So I will at least install new house wrap once I get the old siding off, which may also require installing sheathing to the whole house. If sheathing does exist there, that will save me a lot of time and money. I'm leaning towards going with masonite again, over vinyl, which to me just looks cheap. The masonite has held up reasonably well over the 30 years, despite having been neglected, and having not been painted nearly often enough. New masonite lap siding is priced about the same as decent quality vinyl, and while it does require a little more care, to me it looks better. I've also looked into going the route of new vertical masonite panels like the house already has, but the selection of those is very limited, and the look is sort of dated. But installation would be much easier, and faster, needing only install a few large panels instead of one run of 6-8" siding at a time. It's tough making these big and expensive decisions...
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Have you looked into James Hardy Plank siding? We have it on our house it is a little over 13 years old and the cheap original paint still looks good

I hate Vinyl siding, after a few years it gets real brittle,at least the stuff i had seen does, a few times after working on the condensing unit beside a vinyl sided house i would push on the siding to give me a little help in standing up from an awkward position, and the siding would crush just by pushing on it
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Have you looked into James Hardy Plank siding? We have it on our house it is a little over 13 years old and the cheap original paint still looks good

I hate Vinyl siding, after a few years it gets real brittle,at least the stuff i had seen does, a few times after working on the condensing unit beside a vinyl sided house i would push on the siding to give me a little help in standing up from an awkward position, and the siding would crush just by pushing on it
Yeah, that's the product I was looking at. They have some that is ~10" wide, which I would prefer the look of, over the more standard 5-6" wide stuff. Install looks easy enough, too. No harder than vinyl, and maybe even easier.

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looking forward to your best design ! its looking good right now .:) amazing progress
Thanks. Hopefully I'll get back into interesting stuff soon. Money ran out, and I've basically just been doing little things here and there. Bought a few pieces of furniture that I found with prices I couldn't turn down. Filling it, starting to make it feel like a home, and not just an empty shell.

Have 2 or 3 people looking at my tractor for sale in the next few days. I'm probably going to get a few thousand less than what it's worth, but I need the money pretty badly, so I'm willing to take a bit of a loss. If I didn't need the money so badly, I could take a few months to find the right buyer and get all it's worth. So hopefully as soon as it's sold, I can start buying what I need to finish it all off.
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