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Woodpeckers one time tool vs. Festool Domino 700

I have considered upgrading my doweling jig to the new Woodpeckers One time tool doweling jig before Aug. 29th. However, I was a little surprised to see the cost of $599.00 Then I started to think that for $800 more I got a Festool Domino 700. I do alot of joinery that requires either a dowel or a loose tenon.
I would be interested to hear what other think about the pay some more a get a really handy tool.

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I have the Domino 500 and really like it. I thought long and hard and bought the smaller one, but those with the 700 like it very much. I would think it will be much faster than the Woodpecker item.
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I also have a Domino 500. It'll do 99% of what the DF700 will do, and you can always go old school and cut a mortise and tenon if the 10mm Dominos aren't enough. They're enough for 2x stock so that works for everything I'd use it for. I even use the 4mm Dominos like biscuits.

That Woodpeckers tool looks neat, but wowzers, that's a lot of money for a drill guide.

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I also have a domino 500 and have used it for joining exterior 2x. I thought the WP drilling jig looked pretty good until I scrolled down to the price. No thanks. Way too expensive for a jig. I gave $850 for the domino and it can do a lot more IMO.
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Cut it twice, measure once and it's still too short.
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Hmmm, let's see.

Drill holes using the Woodpecker jig ($600+)

Then drill holes using the Harbor Freight jig ($14.99)

Post your findings and show me a $580.00 difference.

I'm no mathematician, but running these numbers was fairly easy...
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I'm with you on the doweling jig. We make or buy jigs to make our work go easier/faster, not to break our pocketbook. The expense of some jigs just can't be justified by me. But let's face it, jigs are probably more than 50% of a specialty woodworkers store's revenues.
There's probably much more profit in the accessories and jigs than in the power tools themselves.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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Bloody hell, the woodpecker jig is seriously going for $600?! That seems pretty outrageous for a stinking drill guide, that's new table saw levels of money right there. I'm wondering what the woodpecker jig does that something like a dowel max jig doesn't do for $200, and from there I wonder what makes either of those jigs worth the premium over a $50 self-centered jig

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Hmmm, let's see.

Drill holes using the Woodpecker jig ($600+)

Then drill holes using the Harbor Freight jig ($14.99)

Post your findings and show me a $580.00 difference.

I'm no mathematician, but running these numbers was fairly easy...
Hmmm maybe thee case...
Actually that HF jig looks like freehand might be more accurate. LOL

Cut it twice, measure once and it's still too short.
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Others have made my point.

I guess other have made my point better than I. The whole idea of a jig, is to make some process easier using standard shop tools. Spending almost as much on a jig as a dedicated tool is a little "head scratching". The Domino 500 is capable of doing a similar process in probably a quicker manner. There might be some times where a doweling jig would work better, but off the top of my head I can't think of one.
Interesting to see how many of those doweling jigs they sell.

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I haven't seen a "one time tool" yet that I would pay the price for. Seems to be an indulgent thing for those looking to spend money on something...
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I haven't seen a "one time tool" yet that I would pay the price for. Seems to be an indulgent thing for those looking to spend money on something...
I have bought some of the one time saddle squares, T squares and have the festool rail adapter on order scheduled for August shipment. Part that bothers me is the long lead times on delivery. I forgot I ordered the stupid thing until I read this post.
The quality of their tools are unbelievable, but some of the tools are out of my reach from a value to cost ratio.

Cut it twice, measure once and it's still too short.
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