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post #1 of 25 Old 05-21-2019, 04:39 PM Thread Starter
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Used craftsman table saw

I found this table saw on Facebook market place for $40. Guy said it works as it should. Just doesn’t use it and needs it gone. Thoughts?

Edit: I will say it has a cast iron top, it’s 10”, comes with original fence and miter gauge. Looks to be in pretty good shape. My dad had one similar that he may have bought in the late 90’s? Not sure what the model number is.
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Quit asking and go get it. I would pay that for it and I don't need it.
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Quit asking and go get it. I would pay that for it and I don't need it.
Iím such a newbie! I donít know much about saws. I know my dad had a similar saw and he used it to make cabinets and whatever else we were building. So Iím sure itís decent. Plus itís only $40! Trying to get a decent second hand shop put together. I have arranged to pick it up in the AM. Iím assuming the saw is easily separated from the base? I donít have a truck. Iím thinking if I can separate the two itíll fit in my wifeís CRV with the seats folded down.
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The legs should easily detach from the base, lay it upside down in the car, that saw should serve you well, motor is worth more than you paid for the entire saw.

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Like frank says, take some tools with you and dismantle the saw as much as you can. The legs and fence should come off making it to where you could fit it in most any car. It will probably take a 7/16" wrench and a blade screwdriver. Take a selection though.

A lot of those older craftsman saws had a terrible fence on them. That one looks like a good one. Even if you had to put a new motor on it the saw would be worth 40 bucks.
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With the seat folded down and the motor removed and base off it should fit. It is 44" X 30" 20" top and, 2, 12" extensions X 27" deep with a few inches for the rails

Best to bring, just in case, 7/16, 1/2, 9/16 wrenches and sockets with a ratchet and extension bars to remove the rail (front and rear), extension tables from the saw top, and saw case from the base. You will need a small adjustable wrench to remove the square head bolts to separate the motor from the saw. Also a pair of clippers assuming the wiring is tie wrapped. Depending on the switch, you might need a Philips head screwdriver to remove the switch. This is a minimum list. They are all a little different so be prepared.


Also, the fasteners on the fence rails if you have to remove them are square head. Try not to lose those. They aren't rare as hens teeth or unobtanium but are not common.


BTW, well worth $40. I would have drove a bit and picked it up for that price and I have a house full of saws. Good luck with it.


BTW2, worst case scenario the bearing is spun or the motor is junk. you could probably sell the fence on eBay for $80-$100, the miter for another $20, and sell the stand on CL for another $20 as well as get $10-$20 for the extension tables.

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Thanks for all of the advice! I went to look at it and it was missing a few knobs which wasnít a big deal. The fence was in decent shape. When I turned it on it made a god awful noise. The blade seemed to turn fine. It wasnít wobbling, but it sounded terrible. It runs and motor seems to be fine. I was very hesitant due to the noise. The guy said he thought it might be a bearing. So I passed on it.
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If you have second thoughts it costs very little to replace the arbor bearings and you would still have a good saw at a very reasonable price.

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If you have second thoughts it costs very little to replace the arbor bearings and you would still have a good saw at a very reasonable price.
Iím not too savvy with what a bad bearing sounds like or how to diagnose a bearing problem.
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Iím not too savvy with what a bad bearing sounds like or how to diagnose a bearing problem.
If the bearing is bad there may be a small amount of play if you move the blade side to side (motor off and unplugged). Side to side movement may be negligible but the bearing may still be worn. If the noise seems to be coming from the area of the blade when it's running that would indicate a bearing. Bearings do eventually wear. Replacement is not difficult. I have a Craftsman 10 inch Contractor Saw that I bought in the 1970's. I had bearing noise so I brought the housing to a bearing shop and they removed and replaced the bearing for $40. There may be other issues with the saw but $40 is worth a shot. If he wants $40 offer $30.
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I've bought used tools without ever powering them up. This $40 table saw would have been in that category. I wouldn't have wasted time to even power it up. "$30 bucks untested".

Anyway, here's a draft:

1,2,3,...) check area for safety. Be careful. You're working in someone else's space, a stranger. When you unplug the cord tell the seller you are doing that, then keep an eye on the seller that they don't plug in the saw when your doing things with the saw/motor.

4) unplug the table saw. verify the correct cord was unplugged by trying to power up the saw.
5) take the belt off
6) wiggle hard the motor pulley. shouldn't be any play
7) spin the motor pulley. should spin numerous times before slowing down, and there shouldn't be any noise whatsoever, not even faint.
8) wiggle hard the table saw pulley. shouldn't be any play
9) spin the blade. should spin numerous times and there shouldn't be any noise whatsoever, not even faint.
10) put on gloves
11) wiggle the blade. shouldn't be any wiggle.
12) inspect the power cord for cracked insulation etc


13) with belt off, plug in the cord.
14) if you have an ohm meter, test the motor housing and table saw for shorts.
15) verify the area is safe powering up the saw, no kids, no dogs, nothing on the floor to trip over, there is a clear path to back away from the saw, table saw isn't wobbly, is off it's casters or they're locked
16) power up.
17) test for shorts again
18) listen. should be quiet and vibration free. definitely no high pitch
19) power off. motor should spin for a long time


20) unplug. verify the correct cord was unplugged by trying to power up the saw.
21) put the belt on.
22) remove the blade, the washers and the nut
23) verify the area is safe powering up the saw, no kids, no dogs, nothing on the floor to trip over, there is a clear path to back away from the saw, table saw isn't wobbly, is off it's casters or they're locked
24) plug in,
25) power up. there should only be low humming, no high pitched noise.
26) power off. unplug.
verify the correct cord was unplugged by trying to power up the saw.

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Hi


Heck the fence alone is worth $50.
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Thanks all!! I may go and look at it again. It sounds to me like it was a dumb idea to let it go wether itís in good shape or not. Iíll probably go and get it, then do some diagnostics to figure out what the problem is. It sounds to me like it could be an arbor bearing, belt, pulley, or a motor bearing. Thanks again for the advise. I may have also found some cast iron wings for it too for $25.
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Buy it. Figure it out later. You can sell it for at least as much, if not more, if you decide you do not want it.

-> By the time you are done hesitating, someone else will recognize its value and grab it.
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Iím not too savvy with what a bad bearing sounds like or how to diagnose a bearing problem.
I think there is enough people here that could walk you through it. It might take some elbow grease but that is why it was 40.00. You get the bearing out it will have numbers on it which are stock bearings. You don't have to worry about trying to locate some obsolete part that is no longer available.

It's not difficult o diagnose a bearing problem. Take the belt off and turn the motor on and see if the noise is coming from the motor. If not turn the blade by hand and see if it turns freely or is stiff and especially if it's making noise.

In the end the fence alone I worth the 40 bucks even if you have to throw the saw away.
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I just bought new bearings for my craftsman say like yours for about $15 for both. Including shipping from Amazon. They are easy to install.
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It is probably too late to respond now. I hope @cpandzic shares the final outcome. I hope he didn't miss out, but I bet he did.
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Nope!! Picking it up tomorrow. As long as it goes well, Iíll have the saw and a set of cast iron wings for $50 😎 What a deal!!
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Good to know!! Iíve been doing some searching on arbor bearings and that seems to be the going rate for them.
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This is a page from 2007 about when I replaced the bearing in a craftsman contractor saw, the page was done after the fact with photos sent to me later by a visitor to the site taken when he changed his.

http://benchnotes.com/ArborBearings/arborbearing.html
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