Yes, it is true that the nice timesavers, (I would like to find a small 24" one used) are great. But having used the smaller drum sanders for years, a "poor or small shop" sander, they do the job, just slower. I agree that you can get rid of most or all snipe on a well set planer, (i have a great old PM that cuts beautifully) but... you still need to sand. And even the open ended drum sanders, like Performax, do the job, just have to baby them. The Sunhill and the copy, (Grizzly) open ended sanders are certainly compromises, but for small shops, the footprint and the amount of power and the price are certainly attractive. (wish they made a closed end 16" that was the same price. I don't need the open end, as for wide panels i can take it to a friend) The cheapest and smallest Grizzly non open end is something like $8K. The open end 16" is "only" $3200. I agree the belts are expensive, but if time is worth anything, then i don't mind using up a belt or two on a big piece. And remember, when sanding hard maple, how many hours of sanding does one do? Too many! Anyway, thanks for the comments. I guess that no one else has used one of these machines. I have pretty much decided to buy one of them. Just need to decide which.