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Table saw with no slots

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I bought this table saw a while ago, but found myself avoiding to use it all the time out of both jitters (as a newbie) but also because it doesnt really have any miter slots or a fence that is super solid.

For reference: https://www.metabo.com/uk/en/tools/s...table-saw.html

So my question is, if it would make sense for me to fashion a new "table top" for it so I can build my own fence and miter slots on it, or if that is a lost cause?

Thanks for your time!
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I have never seen anything like that before.
many ages ago, my father built a table saw with a wood top
that had the miter slot. the fence was just a board clamped
to the top where needed.
yes, it "can" be done. just depends on your expectations and skill level.
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No miter slots... not needed !

This saw has a sliding crosscut table on the left, typical of larger sliding table saw from Felder, Grizzly etc. https://www.metabo.com/uk/en/tools/s...table-saw.html

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That is actually a pretty cool saw. Never saw it before. I guess the reason for no miter slot is that it has a built in sliding fixture. If the saw works for you, then I assume I would let it be. I was fortunate that I never had to buy my tools out of pocket, I always bought them out of my business. That said, I always let the work determine what tools I need, not the other way around. If you read enough woodworking magazines they will convince you that you can't make a simple box without a $10k workshop. Most of my fixtures and accessories are shop made. Some my design, some I copied. If I felt a regular need for a specific piece of equipment, then I would purchase it. If I could do it another way and still have good results and be time and quality efficient, then I would not buy it. It is very easy to get caught up in the attraction of new tools.
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This saw has a sliding crosscut table on the left, typical of larger sliding table saw from Felder, Grizzly etc. https://www.metabo.com/uk/en/tools/s...table-saw.html
Yeah but the sliding t-slots get stuck, are wobbly and are anything but accurate. I don't trust them making any cut.
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Yeah but the sliding t-slots get stuck, are wobbly and are anything but accurate. I don't trust them making any cut.
You'll want to look into what causing those problems way before you start thinking about making a new top. Everything you just described could be caused by a stuck chip or misadjusted linear rail, worth looking into. A sliding table is a lot more useful than a miter slot, with a few exceptions like cutting box joints with a jig

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The sliding "T"slots?

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Yeah but the sliding t-slots get stuck, are wobbly and are anything but accurate. I don't trust them making any cut.
The miter gauge slides on a round rail: There's probably no fix if it's worn out .... I donno?

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Miter slots are not needed for rip operations. Just as the name says, they are to hold the miter gauge and offer no function for rips.


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Miter slots are not needed for rip operations. Just as the name says, they are to hold the miter gauge and offer no function for rips. george
I beg to disagree. I use the miter slots to hold various jigs and accessories that help with rip cuts. The thin rip jig and featherboards are two examples.
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You'll want to look into what causing those problems way before you start thinking about making a new top. Everything you just described could be caused by a stuck chip or misadjusted linear rail, worth looking into. A sliding table is a lot more useful than a miter slot, with a few exceptions like cutting box joints with a jig
They are T-slots, and so everytime I go to push it, it gets stuck on the sides and such. Is it something you oil? Or. maybe I can attach my own "better" slots to the side?

In any case, the table is totally new so it's not worn out.
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I beg to disagree. I use the miter slots to hold various jigs and accessories that help with rip cuts. The thin rip jig and featherboards are two examples.

Yes, they are very useful for holding accessories. However, for just a rip operation with no accessories they are not needed.


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It looks flimsy at best and an accident waiting to happen. I could be wrong.
Even if you did use it, it's use would be limited to small projects.
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It looks flimsy at best and an accident waiting to happen. I could be wrong.
Even if you did use it, it's use would be limited to small projects.
The tablesaw or the miter attachment?
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"T" slots, on the fence rail?

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Yeah but the sliding t-slots get stuck, are wobbly and are anything but accurate. I don't trust them making any cut.
If the fence is wobbly and won't lock down that's a different issue than no miter slots, for sure. The sliding table has a linear bearing, a good thing, and I wouldn't dismiss it off hand, since they can be better than a sloppy fitting mitergauge. Before going off and making a new table, try the dang thing out, at least see if the fence can be made to work. Metabo is not know for "cheap' or low quality, on the contrary they are typically first rate products. Any issue you might have could probably be solved with a call to their service or technical folks.

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Yes, they are very useful for holding accessories. However, for just a rip operation with no accessories they are not needed. George
I've never had a saw without guide slots and they have never been an impediment. It's up to the OP to decide if they or the fence are a problem for his application. Something no one has mentioned is the stamped tin top. Could it be as flat and stable as a ground steel casting?

This is obviously a European design. They love these compact multifunction tools. They even make a table saw with a jointer built in. A little too gimmicky for me.
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On the other hand, it does have an induction motor.
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Hey guys,
So my question is, if it would make sense for me to fashion a new "table top" for it so I can build my own fence and miter slots on it, or if that is a lost cause?


Thanks for your time!

As someone has already posted, a call to the manufacturer's service center may be your best action.


Are the sides of the table parallel? If they are, I would build a crosscut sled and see if that helps with the miter cuts before I spent a lot of time making a new top. You are not going to build a large one because of the bolt heads on the sides and the arms for the built in miter slide, but you might be able to determine if you want to spend the time and effort to completely replace the table top.


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I would get out your manual and see if there is a way to adjust anything you feel has too much play, there are a lot of these saws sold across the pond so I would not give up on it too quickly.

If you are still not satisfied then perhaps sell it and look for a saw with a top with miter slots and a T-style fence. which I guess would depend on where you are located.

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