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post #21 of 37 Old 04-05-2016, 11:46 AM
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Not sure about PowerMatic but usually the top directly above the legs (the saw blade part) is cast iron. Some manufacturers use steel and some use cast iron for the extension wings - the webbed or grating looking tops on each side.
Powermatic is a very good brand, but even good brand names have a lesser quality lower end saw. An educated guess tells me this is definitely NOT a $1000 saw but could possibly be a $300 dollar saw, providing all parts are there and it runs real well. This is usually referred to as a "contractors saw". Some contractor saws have a fairly high level of quality and some don't.
The motor plate shows it can be wired for 110 or 220V. That is usually a sign of a fairly good quality motor. Normally, manufacturers would not put that motor on a junk model.

maybe someone on here can give you more info on that particular model

BTW, what is the asking price?

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They are asking 350 for it. He called it an Artisan Saw. I think there is a date on the motor that says 1997. Not positive though.
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The Artisan Saw was one of the best contractor saws made, from what I read.
The year the motor was made is not a deterrent for me. Good motors last a very long time.

You could probably get him down to $300. But here is my take on it:
Drop everything, call him and just give him the $350 if all is good.

There are times I would not risk losing a good bargain over $50.

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Based on pictures, I think it's the model 63
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If I had the choice between a nice pretty shiney Grizzly and on old powermatic that is still working, the Powermatic will win. But that's just me.
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That's amazing stability. Loved the nickel aspect. Was that a 113?
yes. and my other saw is a rigid 2412, which performs similarly

there's a solution to every problem.....you just have to be willing to find it.
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Based on pictures, I think it's the model 63

its a right tilt. that would kill it for me.

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Powermatic already sold. Won't most older saws be right tilt?
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....... Won't most older saws be right tilt?
Yes, but Its just a matter of what u get used to. If you never put any amount of time on a table saw, you wouldn't know the difference.
Also dont get blinded just because it's a big name manufacturer. If it's missing a fence or the motor dont work, the motor will be up to about $200 and a fence could be about $300 - $500. You also have to check to see if the cranks work smoothly and if the cast iron top is cracked.

If I cant use it to cut some wood right on the spot, I would not buy it.

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Won't most older saws be right tilt?


No. It's really random actually.

I personally don't care for them but if you move the fence to the left of the blade on a right tilt it will function the same way a left tilt would with the fence to the right of the blade.

The main thing is you don't want the blade pointed towards the fence on a beveled cut.
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Those saws are actually remarkably similar, and likely came out of the same Mao Shan Taiwanese factory. Both have cast iron tops, grated cast iron wings, are right tilt saws, and a have good fences. Neither has a true riving knife, though I do see what looks to be a stock splitter on the Griz. The Grizzly has a good mobile base, appears to be in better shape. The PM has a slightly more powerful motor. The PM name is more prestigious, but means very little in this case. I'd put a fair value on them in the $200-$350 range.
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Check this saw out. I'm fairly certain that you could pick it up for 400 bucks if you can manage it. And it's worth twice that, at least.

https://scranton.craigslist.org/tls/5519963147.html
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Check this saw out. I'm fairly certain that you could pick it up for 400 bucks if you can manage it. And it's worth twice that, at least.

https://scranton.craigslist.org/tls/5519963147.html
That is a nice saw, but the OP might not have 220 available to run it.
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Also it is 3 phase which he most likely does not have.

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That is a nice saw, but the OP might not have 220 available to run it.
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I might have to save some more for that. I also don't have the electrical hook ups needed for it...
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Oops. Totally missed that it has a 3 phase motor. Sorry
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I went to an auction in Arkansas when the Vo-tec's were selling off their woodworking tools. There was this glorious 6 or 700 pound mortising machine. It was made in the early 1940' for use in factories. It was obviously outmoded for a factory but one heck of a time saver for a small shop. I noticed that it was set up for 3 phase. when the bidding got to $125, I yelled out "Is that 3 Phase?". All of a sudden the bidding stopped and my bid was for $150. I won the bid. Then I disassembled the monster and got it back to my shop. . At the time, I found a nearly new motor for 220V single phase for $50 and just swapped motors. YOu might want to consider that.

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