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Router - fixed vs plunge

I'm curious if it's possible to use a fixed router like a plunge router... Could I take a forstner bit, drill a hole to the depth I want, then cut out the shape I need? Say I'm working on a 1" thick board and need a 1/2" shape cut out.. take the forstner, drill the 1/2" deep hole and then cut out from there.

Or is a plunge router just better in every way and easier?
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Woah ... confusion!

Router - fixed vs plunge
"I'm curious if it's possible to use a fixed router like a plunge router..."

Fixed is fixed and plunge is plunge, not the same.

A plunge is used to start a slot in the center of a workpiece like a mortise. It can be plunged to various depths using the step/depth platform built in the housing.

A fixed is usually used to profile and edge, make a dado or rabbet at a predetermined depth. A fixed is all most always used under the table for a router table application. Starting a fixed in the middle of a workpiece can be tricky and dangerous as it may want to grab and spin out of control.

Your best plan/buy is to get the "kit" where both types of bases are included. Check Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1617EVS...ood+router+kit

To rout a specific shape in the center of a workpiece you can use either a fixed and adjust the height incrementally OR a plunge using the step platform... HOWEVER you will need a template and a top bearing bit or guide bushings.

You Tube has videos on using router guide bushings.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)

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My thinking was I could drill a "pilot" hole with what ever bit (on the drill press or with a power drill), at what ever depth I wanted. Then set the depth on the fixed base router and cut out what I need to... That wouldn't work?
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The Bosch kit is what I was looking at, and then wondering if I could do it this other way
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My thinking was I could drill a "pilot" hole with what ever bit (on the drill press or with a power drill), at what ever depth I wanted. Then set the depth on the fixed base router and cut out what I need to... That wouldn't work?
Short answer, yes it will work.

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Will it work? Yes and no.

Yes, because in theory that approach is valid.

No, because for deep cuts. you should break it into multiple cuts, each cut a little deeper than the previous. So if you have a starter hole that is 1" deep, elongating the entire depth of the hole with a router in one pass will be difficult, because you will be removing an inch of material at a time, which will be very hard on the bit and the router. The bit will get very hot and you will probably scorch the wood, and it will wear out the bit (and the router) more quickly.

To elongate a starter hole, you should do multiple passes of elongations starting with a depth of 1/8" or so, and then going a little deeper each additional pass.

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Drilling a hole would work alright if you are cutting all the way through.

If not, using a firm hold on the router you could put one edge of the base of the router down and slowly stand it straight up letting the router cut into the wood. I did this for more than 30 years before buying a plunge router.
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I'm curious if it's possible to use a fixed router like a plunge router... Could I take a forstner bit, drill a hole to the depth I want, then cut out the shape I need? Say I'm working on a 1" thick board and need a 1/2" shape cut out.. take the forstner, drill the 1/2" deep hole and then cut out from there.

Or is a plunge router just better in every way and easier?
You can certainly achieve the same results without a plunge router by pre-drilling like you've said above. I rarely use a plunge router but it's a nice feature to have. If your router isn't a plunge router, you can still do anything you need by taking the extra step of making a starting hole. I suggest you route out a 1/2" depth in at least two steps for better control. 1/4" + 1/4". Good luck.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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