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post #1 of 23 Old 12-07-2009, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
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Need help with my jointer

Bought a used jointer but the fellow I bought it from didn't have the manual. It's a Craftsman model 113.206010. Sears has nothing on it (too old like me I guess). Searching the internet turned up nothing (OWWM etc.). I know it was made by Emerson tools for Sears but they have nothing either. Anybody got one of these that could copy the manual for me?
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post #2 of 23 Old 12-07-2009, 09:58 AM
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I probably have a manual for it or close

What specifically did you need to know other than a list of parts that are no longer available through Sears...obsolete...you know. discountinued and all. 6 1/8" knives are available still. Setting the knives? Pulley sizes? Horse Power ...etc. I'll check my files. bill

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What specifically did you need to know other than a list of parts that are no longer available through Sears...obsolete...you know. discountinued and all. 6 1/8" knives are available still. Setting the knives? Pulley sizes? Horse Power ...etc. I'll check my files. bill

Knife dimensions are my main concern. (length, width, thickness) although proper settings for them are important too. Other things would be motor specs, pulley sizes, lubrication, adjustments, etc. This machine is a little different than some I've looked at. For instance: The outfeed table is not adjustable and the fence uses swiveling levers instead of knobs for adjusting depth and tilt. FYI it's a 6 1/8" machine made probably by Emerson tools many years ago (the 113 prefix indicates Emerson) so possibly there would be an Emerson or Ridgid equivalent but if there is, I haven't been able to find this out.
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This may be a ridiculous question, but did you call Sears parts #?
I needed a part for a 1960's (probably B.C ) radial arm saw and they had it. I couldn't believe it. They even had a manual for it.

I have their 6" jointer, but mine is newer. Probably wouldn't help you much. But if I can help in any way, let me know.
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This may be a ridiculous question, but did you call Sears parts #?
I needed a part for a 1960's (probably B.C ) radial arm saw and they had it. I couldn't believe it. They even had a manual for it.

I have their 6" jointer, but mine is newer. Probably wouldn't help you much. But if I can help in any way, let me know.


I checked their website AND called them and she couldn't find anything on the model number. It's like it never existed. Thanks for the offer of help.
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My Craftsman Jointer-Planer model 113.20621

Is probably pretty close to yours 113. 206010. The manual part no is 67004
There must be million of these out there I've seen them on Craig's list, but the manuals may be scarce.
I could probably make a copy and mail it to you if you have no luck otherwise. bill
BTW drop off the last "0" and see what shows up on the Sears site. These units are probably 40 to 50 yrs old.

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Is probably pretty close to yours 113. 206010. The manual part no is 67004
There must be million of these out there I've seen them on Craig's list, but the manuals may be scarce.
I could probably make a copy and mail it to you if you have no luck otherwise. bill
BTW drop off the last "0" and see what shows up on the Sears site. These units are probably 40 to 50 yrs old.


I tried dropping the last zero and it came back not found. (sigh). Before you go to the trouble of copying and mailing your owner's manual, it might be helpful if I take a few pictues of my jointer and send them to you. That way you'll be able to see if there's enough similarity. BTW, I looked up p/n 67004 and it came back as no longer available so take good care of the one you have. I also looked up your model on the parts site and there are some similarities and a lot of differences. For instance the fence adjusments on yours appear to be on the left end and the back of the machine. On mine, both adjustments are on the back.Also, (I'm not sure about this) it looks like the motor on your machine mouts below the jointer. On mine, it's tucked up under the outfeed table and has a very short belt.

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By all means post the photos here

You may find someone with the same unit. bill

As far as adjustments and setting the knives all other things would be similar.

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You may find someone with the same unit. bill

As far as adjustments and setting the knives all other things would be similar.

I'll take some pics tomorrow and put them up here.
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Hey Flier

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This may be a ridiculous question, but did you call Sears parts #?
I needed a part for a 1960's (probably B.C ) radial arm saw and they had it. I couldn't believe it. They even had a manual for it.

I have their 6" jointer, but mine is newer. Probably wouldn't help you much. But if I can help in any way, let me know.
I have the same looking jointer but my on-off switch is in the cabinet base. Just wondered how you like the "high five" switch? How do you "bump" it off in an emergency, with your forehead? bill
I often "bump" mine off with my knee, since it's the correct height. (for my knee)

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Pictures of my jointer

Here's some pics of my jointer. Any help will be appreciated.
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Sorry, Can't help with this one

Its newer than my old one and older than my new one. bill
There is a Craftsman Tool owners Club: http://www.craftsmantooltalk.com/BBS...lat-page1.html
Maybe they can help?

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Phoneman,
Just for carbon dating purposes, here's a few pics of my craftsmen jointer. I bought this about 30 years ago. My blade guard is broke, so it's not in the pictures.
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Phoneman,
Just for carbon dating purposes, here's a few pics of my craftsmen jointer. I bought this about 30 years ago. My blade guard is broke, so it's not in the pictures.
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Looks like the same model as woodnthings has. He seems to think mine is newer than his but his jointer shows up on Sears parts direct. Mine doesn't!
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MIke whats the model no of yours?

I know mine is much older, there's no switch on the unit. Mine looks older. Your's may not have a good model no. Best check it out. bill

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I have the same looking jointer but my on-off switch is in the cabinet base. Just wondered how you like the "high five" switch? How do you "bump" it off in an emergency, with your forehead? bill
I often "bump" mine off with my knee, since it's the correct height. (for my knee)

The switch sits beside my right elbow as I push boards through (I save my forehead for the wall, when I screw up a cut ). Great jointer except it's a couple inches too narrow .

Xphnmn, did your machine come with knives?
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The switch sits beside my right elbow as I push boards through (I save my forehead for the wall, when I screw up a cut ). Great jointer except it's a couple inches too narrow .

Xphnmn, did your machine come with knives?

Yes, it has knives. Haven't pulled them out yet to measure them. I guess that will be my next step. Knives are pretty standard so if I know the measurements I should be able to get replacements.
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Yep, about all you can do, I guess.
I've found the Sears jointer knives cheap both ways. Cheap to buy, nearly impossible to keep sharp (or chip free).
If you plan on doing a lot of jointing, I'd measure your knives and get them someplace other than Sears.
I can appreciate some of their stuff, but not their jointer knives.
Sorry about your jointer problems.
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Yep, about all you can do, I guess.
I've found the Sears jointer knives cheap both ways. Cheap to buy, nearly impossible to keep sharp (or chip free).
If you plan on doing a lot of jointing, I'd measure your knives and get them someplace other than Sears.
I can appreciate some of their stuff, but not their jointer knives.
Sorry about your jointer problems.
Dave

I've seen some good reviews on the high tungsten content knives from Holbren and at about $17.50 for a set of three, that seems pretty reasonable.
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Craftsman 152.217060 Jointer

How do you raise and lower the infeed table.
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