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Apparently, this reply is to long to fit (?). So i have to do it in three posts (if it works).


I was just looking at a few impact drivers on various sites. Trying to get an idea of what one would best serve me. Considering function and price of course. Glancing through specs of each one. Tho i only half know what im looking at. (or.. probably less then half.) So feel free to point anything out you think i might have missed or overlooked. - I ended up looking at three of them. Naturally they are listed on three different sites, so i couldnt do the easy side by side comparison. Price wise at least, they range a good bit.


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Craftsman

https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-V...ded/1000553157


Hercules
https://www.harborfreight.com/20v-li...kit-63380.html


Black & Decker
https://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DE...I20C/204755808


They are all 20 volts, with a 1/4 max chuck, charger included, Lithium Ion batteries, variable speed, recharge in about an hour.
(im hoping the format carries over after i post this)
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All of the tools should have a warranty that will get you through your wall project. The power of the tools should be very close but Iíve never used any of the 3 brands.
Any of the 3 should work fine for you. Maybe base your choice on how the battery connects to the tool and how the chuck accepts the driver/bit. Look for any variances like a belt hook, light or neat feature that sets it apart. And of course thereís always the price but The cheapest seems to never be the best.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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It will even drive 3 1/2" deck screws, just takes a few seconds more. Impacts are the best thing to happen to screws since the square drive replaced the Phillips head..... well, should replace....
As a matter of principle, I always pre-drill a clearance hole when I'm screwing two boards together. Otherwise they don't pull together. Is that required with deck screws?

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As a matter of principle, I always pre-drill a clearance hole when I'm screwing two boards together. Otherwise they don't pull together. Is that required with deck screws?
Deck or construction screws are designed with a longer smooth shank at the top so there is nothing to hold the top board from pulling together with the bottom board. It is just a matter of using the proper length screw for the job.

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As a matter of principle, I always pre-drill a clearance hole when I'm screwing two boards together. Otherwise they don't pull together. Is that required with deck screws?
deck screws typically have no thread in the first board
this allows the threads in the 2nd board to suck it down

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imo, stay away from anything with a motor from harbor fright, other than the $9.99 grinders :)
as for craftsman power tools, same thing, who knows what bankruptcy will do to warranties

20 volt vs 18 volt, it is the same voltage. all 18 volt batteries charge to 20 volts
your car battery charges at 14 volts, it's still a 12 volt battery
my golf cart charges to 51 volts, it's still a 48 volt golf cart
at 18 volts the battery is basically dead, same goes for the 12 and 48 volt examples

take a serious look at rigid, it's a home depot brand, probably the best cordless tool warranty out there
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take a serious look at rigid, it's a home depot brand, probably the best cordless tool warranty out there

as requested; i added its specs to the list.











For the craftsman, hercules, B&D: They are all 20 volts, with a 1/4 max chuck, charger included, Lithium Ion batteries, variable speed, recharge in about an hour.


The ridgid is an 18 volt with a 1/2 max chuck.
The battery life is listed as a lot higher. Tho there any many buyers saying it comes with the slower charger.
RPM and IPM are lower then the rest. But the torque is listed as massively higher?
lifetime warranty is notable.

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Ridgid Lifetime Warranty:

https://www.ridgid.com/ca/en/full-lifetime-warranty

"How Long Coverage Lasts

This warranty lasts for the lifetime of the RIDGID tool. Warranty coverage ends when the product becomes unusable for reasons other than defects in workmanship or material."

If you read the fine print the warranty may actually be different than what you believe they say it is.

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Ridgid Lifetime Warranty:

https://www.ridgid.com/ca/en/full-lifetime-warranty

"How Long Coverage Lasts

This warranty lasts for the lifetime of the RIDGID tool. Warranty coverage ends when the product becomes unusable for reasons other than defects in workmanship or material."

If you read the fine print the warranty may actually be different than what you believe they say it is.

i figured as much. If they replaced or fixed all defects and wear and tear, etc then i imagine that wouldnt go over to well for them.



Either way tho, i still gotta pick one :/
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how is ridgid able to get so much more torque then the rest? Thats a pretty substantial difference between them.
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Everything made has a life expectancy and the manufacturer decides what the life of the tool or appliance is, so don't think it'
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how is ridgid able to get so much more torque then the rest? Thats a pretty substantial difference between them.
2,250 is listed for the Gen5X which is still pretty good, which one has 5,400?

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Craftsman

https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-V...ded/1000553157


Hercules
https://www.harborfreight.com/20v-li...kit-63380.html


Black & Decker
https://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DE...I20C/204755808


They are all 20 volts, with a 1/4 max chuck, charger included, Lithium Ion batteries, variable speed, recharge in about an hour.
(im hoping the format carries over after i post this)

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2,250 is listed for the Gen5X which is still pretty good, which one has 5,400?

Ridgid

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1...11SB/303037082


listed as 450 ft. lb.
converted to in. lb. would be 5400?
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Ridged is Tht Home Depotís house brand. THD stands behind this brand.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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does it actually have 5400 in lb tho? And if so, how?



craftsman has 1700 in lb

herc 1500 in lb

B&D 1350 in. lb


thats quite a difference for similar models.
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does it actually have 5400 in lb tho? And if so, how?



craftsman has 1700 in lb

herc 1500 in lb

B&D 1350 in. lb


thats quite a difference for similar models.
I believe you are comparing a torque wrench to impact drivers.

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I believe you are comparing a torque wrench to impact drivers.

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ok.. lets try this again. Trying to figure out which impact river to get for for making the room in the basement. (for use with framing screws.)


I kind of added the wrong tool in the last pic of specs. Didnt notice that was an impact wrench and not an impact driver. In my defense tho, that item was the second search result for impact driver under the ridgid brand.

Interestingly, and oddly, tho, home depot has listed there ridgid brand impact driver as either a single tool with no battery, or in combo kits with another drill. There (logical) combo of impact driver+battery+drill is discontinued. So it looks like you have to buy them seperatly at a higher price, on in a kit with more then you were looking for.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-G...6035sb%7D%3Aqu


So here is the new pic of specs for some of the impact drivers i was looking at. Including both the ridgid tool only + a separate battery and charger. As well as one for a ridgid combo set.




The ridgid combo kit comes with a drill and an impact driver with two batteries and a charger. (And is still cheaper then buying a impact driver and batteries separately.) (The kit has two batteries instead of one if bought separatly. But they have slightly less amp hours. But with two, thats seems fine.)

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1...9603/301853891


*The non ridgid brands: They are all 20 volts, with a 1/4 max chuck, charger included, Lithium Ion batteries, variable speed, recharge in about an hour.
Ridgid: 18 volts, 1/4 max chuck, Lithium Ion batteries, variable speed. - Batteries and charging time depends on which one u get.


1am.. but lets hope i got that right this time.
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Get the Rigid combo kit!

It's the best bang for your buck and the batteries and tools have "lifetime" warranty IF you register them! I have the same kits myself and they work great. I also got the 6" circular saw because it uses the same batteries. Pretty soon you will have a whole range of tools, IF you stick with one battery brand. Then you can buy "bare" tools without the batteries and a cheaper rate.

Those Rigid combo kit go one sale pretty often. Wait for the sale if possible. Have a buddy get it on a military discount if possible. Save a buck if you can.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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